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BREXIT: Parliament can't stop "no deal" - Matt Hancock

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    #51
    Originally posted by Zigenare View Post
    That is not why I'm happy at the news. I am happy at the news because it means those wets in parliament who sought to stall the UK leaving cannot now do so on the pretence of blocking leaving without a deal.

    I'd prefer a deal but the lack of one shouldn't stop us leaving.
    If MP's had voted on any of the issues based on how their constituents voted in the referendum, perhaps we might not have got into this mess in the first place. However, this is the crux of the issue with our so call democracy. MP's do not represent the wishes of their constituents, they owe more allegiance to their political parties than the electorate.

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      #52
      Originally posted by JohntheBike View Post
      If MP's had voted on any of the issues based on how their constituents voted in the referendum, perhaps we might not have got into this mess in the first place. However, this is the crux of the issue with our so call democracy. MP's do not represent the wishes of their constituents, they owe more allegiance to their political parties than the electorate.
      Shirley knot!
      Old Greg - In search of acceptance since Mar 2007. Hoping each leap will be his last.

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        #53
        Originally posted by jamesbrown View Post
        It is merely convention that an outgoing PM doesn't take irrevocable decisions in the run up to a GE, nothing more.
        But didn't Parliament vote overwhelmingly for Article 50 and also to leave on Oct.31?

        What irrevocable decision do you think Boris will make in the run up to a GE?

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          #54
          Originally posted by Platypus View Post
          But didn't Parliament vote overwhelmingly for Article 50 and also to leave on Oct.31?

          What irrevocable decision do you think Boris will make in the run up to a GE?
          "You're all sacked, I'm now Supreme Leader!"
          Old Greg - In search of acceptance since Mar 2007. Hoping each leap will be his last.

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            #55
            Originally posted by Platypus View Post
            But didn't Parliament vote overwhelmingly for Article 50 and also to leave on Oct.31?

            What irrevocable decision do you think Boris will make in the run up to a GE?
            Yes, it did (on the former). Oct 31 was an extension accepted under the Crown Prerogative, without a vote. I'm not sure how those things are connected to my point though.

            My point is that, by convention, the PM could refuse to quit after a successful VONC *and* after a "government of national unity" (aka whiny remoaner partisan gov't of national disunity ) has shown confidence with an EDM or similar. The PM could simply say, "screw you, the election is on 1 Nov, after we've left". Until the gov't of disunity is actually in power, it's powerless, and Boris (and ultimately HM) remain in control of that process.

            Of course, Remoaners could attempt to involve HM at that point by "writing letters", but that is unlikely to succeed

            The only reliable thing these remoaners can do, IMO, is to legislate by, for example, obtaining control of the order paper via SO24 and then changing the FTPA. But that would need to get through the Lords too; they probably wouldn't have time, and the gov't can appoint Lords at will to block/frustrate. Also, it would nicely play into the subsequent election campaign.

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              #56
              Originally posted by jamesbrown View Post
              My point is that, by convention, the PM could refuse to quit after a successful VONC *and* after a "government of national unity" (aka whiny remoaner partisan gov't of national disunity ) has shown confidence with an EDM or similar. The PM could simply say, "screw you, the election is on 1 Nov, after we've left". Until the gov't of disunity is actually in power, it's powerless, and Boris (and ultimately HM) remain in control of that process.
              Emergency court order to arrest lawless public officials starting with BoJo.

              Quick and very fair trial outside of Number 10 to follow.

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                #57
                Originally posted by AtW View Post
                Emergency court order to arrest lawless public officials starting with BoJo.

                Quick and very fair trial outside of Number 10 to follow.
                Your Russian / North Korean / Chinese / Venezuelan methods are no good here

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by AtW View Post
                  Emergency court order to arrest lawless public officials starting with BoJo.

                  Quick and very fair trial outside of Number 10 to follow.
                  Then we'll see if Priti Patel sticks to her desire to take back control and restore capital punishment
                  …Maybe we ain’t that young anymore

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Zigenare View Post
                    "You're all sacked, I'm now Supreme Leader!"
                    I bet the other mop-haired leader beats him to it....

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                      #60
                      One more scenario
                      Johnson refuses to quit after no confidence.
                      Corbyn declares himself prime minister and the EU accepts that he is the new prime minister and they agree to extend the departure date until after an election.

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