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    Quote Originally Posted by saptastic View Post
    Lib Dem = Rewind back to pre-referendum, forget Brexit - crack on with daily life and Farage gets back on the soap box
    I am not sure the UK would revert. For one thing I reckon the UK would pay a lot more. And the country would still be divided for years.

    And who cares what Farage thinks? I do listen sometimes to his show on LBC - I like to be challenged. To be fair to me he is clear on his position and he puts things in a way then common thicko can understand easily. But he does tell some lies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrilloPad View Post
    I am not sure the UK would revert. For one thing I reckon the UK would pay a lot more. And the country would still be divided for years.

    And who cares what Farage thinks? I do listen sometimes to his show on LBC - I like to be challenged. To be fair to me he is clear on his position and he puts things in a way then common thicko can understand easily. But he does tell some lies.
    But he does tell some lies.
    don't they all?

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    Quote Originally Posted by saptastic View Post
    Ok thanks for highlighting. Yes so choice in the election is clear....

    Tory = hard brexit - lets go for it and ignore project fear of the sky falling in
    Lib Dem = Rewind back to pre-referendum, forget Brexit - crack on with daily life and Farage gets back on the soap box
    Labour = 5 years of internally & externally debating brexit and meanwhile the economy collapses anyway like never seen before through socialist policies & we beg the EU to let us stay
    Yep - great isn't it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zigenare View Post
    Didn't Labour promise in their previous GE manifesto to abide by the results of the first EU referendum?

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    Yes. And their manifesto was rejected by the electorate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by meridian View Post
    Yes. And their manifesto was rejected by the electorate.

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    In that case surely the Conservative manifesto was accepted by the electorate, which included accepting and acting upon the result of the EU referendum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zigenare View Post
    In that case surely the Conservative manifesto was accepted by the electorate, which included accepting and acting upon the result of the EU referendum.
    Alternatively, their manifesto resulted in a reduced majority and a minority government, showing that it too had been rejected. The point though is that Labour is perfectly entitled to change their manifesto now. If you want to vote the Conservatives out for not following up on their manifesto, go for it.

    I wouldn’t get too hung up on manifestos though. They’re more “aspirations” than commitments. Eg nobody appears to be too hung up on all the other manifesto promises that haven’t been delivered.
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    Quote Originally Posted by meridian View Post
    nobody appears to be too hung up on all the other manifesto promises that haven’t been delivered.
    I could not agree more. And that is what gets me about people who want a second referendum. They complain about lies in the leave campaign. Plenty of lies around in politics.

    This has just amply highlighted why referendums should be banned. And I want a referendum on that....

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    Quote Originally Posted by saptastic View Post
    Ok thanks for highlighting. Yes so choice in the election is clear....

    Tory = hard brexit - lets go for it and ignore project fear of the sky falling in
    Lib Dem = Rewind back to pre-referendum, forget Brexit - crack on with daily life and Farage gets back on the soap box
    Labour = 5 years of internally & externally debating brexit and meanwhile the economy collapses anyway like never seen before through socialist policies & we beg the EU to let us stay
    so whatever your traditional politics are - I can understand someone voting Lib Dems, someone voting Boris / Farage but I cant see any logic at all in Corbyn's stance.

    Of course that is if it is was a single issue general election.

    It is not

    So therefore taking Brexit out .........

    I definitely cant see any logic in voting Corbyn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by saptastic View Post
    so whatever your traditional politics are - I can understand someone voting Lib Dems, someone voting Boris / Farage but I cant see any logic at all in Corbyn's stance.

    Of course that is if it is was a single issue general election.

    It is not

    So therefore taking Brexit out .........

    I definitely cant see any logic in voting Corbyn.
    There’s no logic in voting Corbyn, but that may only apply if you live in Islington.

    In my case I would consider both Conservative and Labour Brexit policies to be damaging to the country. However, although my MP is a Labour MP, she’s a backbencher and spends most of her time dealing with local constituency issues. In other words, quote a good local MP.

    If the country’s going to be fscked either way, I may as well vote for someone who’s decent locally.

    (Of course, there will always then be people that CO-opt my vote to say “you voted for Corbyn” or “you voted for a Labour manifesto” when neither of these things are true...)

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    Quote Originally Posted by meridian View Post
    There’s no logic in voting Corbyn, but that may only apply if you live in Islington.

    In my case I would consider both Conservative and Labour Brexit policies to be damaging to the country. However, although my MP is a Labour MP, she’s a backbencher and spends most of her time dealing with local constituency issues. In other words, quote a good local MP.

    If the country’s going to be fscked either way, I may as well vote for someone who’s decent locally.

    (Of course, there will always then be people that CO-opt my vote to say “you voted for Corbyn” or “you voted for a Labour manifesto” when neither of these things are true...)
    Well the other candidates may be great for the local constituency or even better.

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