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UK 'proposes customs centres on both sides of border'

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    Northern Ireland would leave the EU's customs union alongside the rest of the UK, at the end of the transition period in 2021
    However Northern Ireland would, with the consent of politicians at Stormont, continue to apply EU legislation relating to goods, including agrifoods
    This arrangement could in theory continue indefinitely, but the Northern Ireland Assembly's consent would have to be sought every four years in order for it to continue
    So like a reverse backstop, where the UK can pull out unilaterally and the EU/ROI has no say when the arrangement is terminated. Yep, that's going to fly.

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      Originally posted by sal View Post
      So like a reverse backstop, where the UK can pull out unilaterally and the EU/ROI has no say when the arrangement is terminated. Yep, that's going to fly.
      Well we'll just have to wait and see, won't we? Now turn that frown upside down!
      Old Greg - In search of acceptance since Mar 2007. Hoping each leap will be his last.

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        Originally posted by meridian View Post
        At the moment, zero. It’s like they’re not even reading what they’re writing.
        13. Our proposal is that, before the end of the transition period, and every four years
        afterwards, the UK will provide an opportunity for democratic consent to these
        arrangements in the Northern Ireland Assembly and Executive, within the framework
        set by the Belfast (Good Friday) Agreement. If consent is withheld, the arrangements
        will not enter into force or will lapse (as the case may be) after one year, and
        arrangements will default to existing rules.
        Presumably "existing rules" means the same rules as between the rest of the UK and EU?

        Wouldn't that undermine the GFA?
        Scoots still says that Apr 2020 didn't mark the start of a new stock bull market.

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          Originally posted by Zigenare View Post
          However...

          You will need an ID card or passport if you are travelling within the European Union. And not just when you cross a border (for example, via an airport). You must also be able to show an ID card or passport if you are staying in a European country.
          Linky?

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            Originally posted by sal View Post
            I will bite...

            ANY people, since we are taking back control of our borders and are looking for immigration rules different from the EU. How are we going to establish if a person crossing the border from ROI to NI has the right to enter the UK.

            More importantly (since the UK clearly doesn't care about the inbound traffic) how is the EU going to control who is entering the EU from NI.

            You're going to tulip the bed when you find out you can clear US customs in Ireland.
            Make Mercia Great Again!

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              Originally posted by Zigenare View Post
              However...
              You must also be able to show an ID card or passport if you are staying in a European country.
              Lets see, I've been to 4 European countries quite recently and didn't have to show an ID card or passport. Maybe they think you look dodgy and ask just in case you're on Interpol's most wanted...
              Brexit is having a wee in the middle of the room at a house party because nobody is talking to you, and then complaining about the smell.

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                Originally posted by DealorNoDeal View Post
                Presumably "existing rules" means the same rules as between the rest of the UK and EU?

                Wouldn't that undermine the GFA?
                It’s suitable vague.

                To me, the existing rules as they stand today are the Belfast Agreement along with the freedom of movement of people, goods and services.

                Any rules that come in later are not the existing rules.
                …Maybe we ain’t that young anymore

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                  Originally posted by Zigenare View Post

                  Considering Ireland didn't sign up to Schengen, how does Ireland handle its borders currently?
                  You do realise that Ireland didn't joint Schengen to 'please' the UK and create a scenario where GFA can work!

                  Forget Brexit, how would you workout the border between ROI and NI/UK if ROI was in the Schengen zone?

                  I'm pretty sure if UK leaves the EU, Ireland will immediately join Schengen!
                  "The boy who cried Sheep"

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                    Originally posted by Zigenare View Post
                    Well we'll just have to wait and see, won't we? Now turn that frown upside down!
                    Maybe you have to wait and see! Anyone else with a normal IQ and some common sense already knows the result...
                    "The boy who cried Sheep"

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                      Originally posted by CryingSheep View Post
                      You do realise that Ireland didn't joint Schengen to 'please' the UK and create a scenario where GFA can work!

                      Forget Brexit, how would you workout the border between ROI and NI/UK if ROI was in the Schengen zone?

                      I'm pretty sure if UK leaves the EU, Ireland will immediately join Schengen!
                      That's an inaccurate representation IMO. The situation was that the UK wasn't going to join Schengen and Ireland had to choose between Schengen and the CTA. Maintaining the CTA was the obvious choice to ensure free movement of people on the island of Ireland. It wasn't to please the UK. The political backlash in Ireland would have been immense.

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