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    #61
    Originally posted by Batcher View Post
    The £Sterling can be used by any country, just as the $US is.
    • Commonwealth of Puerto Rico
    • Ecuador
    • Republic of El Salvador
    • Republic of Zimbabwe
    • Guam
    • US and British Virgin Islands
    • Democratic Republic of Timor-Leste
    • American Samoa
    • Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands
    • Federated States of Micronesia
    • Republic of Palau

    Does Scotland really want to be the Guam to the UK's America? There has to be a better currency to use than one you have no control over.

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      #62
      Originally posted by DimPrawn View Post
      Some more income streams possible:

      Defra to buy carbon credits to incentivise tree planting - Farmers Weekly

      Growth in Scottish financial services outstrips the City of London - Business Insider


      The big issue is how much of the UK debt would Scotland be saddled with and how much would the interest payments on this debt drag on a independent Scotland?
      But, strangely, in your world, the UK debt doesn't have a debt drag on the UK, because everything is jam, scones and jerusalem.
      When freedom comes along, don't PISH in the water supply.....

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        #63
        Originally posted by TestMangler View Post
        But, strangely, in your world, the UK debt doesn't have a debt drag on the UK, because everything is jam, scones and jerusalem.
        Of course it does, but being in the EU does not improve the UK debt situation being a net drawn due to EU fees.

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          #64
          Originally posted by DimPrawn View Post
          Of course it does, but being in the EU does not improve the UK debt situation being a net drawn due to EU fees.
          So the income to UK companies (and therefore the UK treasury) derived from membership of a massive free trade block does not provide any actual income, and in your opinion, taxes and other government incomes derived from UK company sales to EU countries totals less than £8.5 Billion per annum ? Really ? Is that your argument ??
          When freedom comes along, don't PISH in the water supply.....

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            #65
            Originally posted by JohntheBike View Post
            do you hold a Scottish passport or a British one?

            Henry VIII missed a trick when he only absorbed Wales.
            The UK is not a sovereign country. It is a sovereign state, comprised of the four countries that we all know.

            Wonder if they'll get a full idea of what independence means for them? Or just what Sturgeon wants to tell them so they'll vote for her?
            The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world that he didn't exist

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              #66
              Originally posted by Zigenare View Post
              Hey buddy, let the English vote on your future. You'll get what you want.
              So how come, not one, not even one of your english based westminster parties or MPs is shouting for Scotland to be allowed the mechanism for Independence when it would save mighty jerusalem from the financial drain that you poor bulldog owning, jack waiving, anti everyone except the party and the crown people have to subsidise ?
              When freedom comes along, don't PISH in the water supply.....

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                #67
                Originally posted by LondonManc View Post
                The UK is not a sovereign country. It is a sovereign state, comprised of the four countries that we all know.

                Wonder if they'll get a full idea of what independence means for them? Or just what Sturgeon wants to tell them so they'll vote for her?
                Wonder if they'll get a full idea of what independence means for them?
                I guess they'll have to guess, as Mrs. Krankie won't tell them!

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by TestMangler View Post
                  So how come, not one, not even one of your english based westminster parties or MPs is shouting for Scotland to be allowed the mechanism for Independence when it would save mighty jerusalem from the financial drain that you poor bulldog owning, jack waiving, anti everyone except the party and the crown people have to subsidise ?
                  If Scotland is permitted to have an additional referendum with only Scots voters then you'll never gain independence.

                  You need to stop kidding yourselves.
                  Old Greg - In search of acceptance since Mar 2007. Hoping each leap will be his last.

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by DimPrawn View Post
                    Some more income streams possible:

                    Defra to buy carbon credits to incentivise tree planting - Farmers Weekly

                    Growth in Scottish financial services outstrips the City of London - Business Insider


                    The big issue is how much of the UK debt would Scotland be saddled with and how much would the interest payments on this debt drag on a independent Scotland?
                    Now you get how they go on about Scotland’s deficit when, in fact, we are not allowed to borrow and have to run a balanced budget. We are allocated a deficit by the UK government based on their borrowings and spending on infrastructure that doesn’t benefit Scotland like Crossrail, HS2, etc. They over-allocate a bigger deficit to the other 3 nations to make us look like basket cases.

                    If we need to take on a portion of the UK’s debt then we also get the same portion of the assets like embassies, aircraft carriers, Trident, etc that we can sell to reduce the debt.

                    Remember the £37B that the UK are refusing to pay to the EU? Same principle applies, we can walk away without any debt if the UK can ?

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Zigenare View Post
                      If Scotland is permitted to have an additional referendum with only Scots voters then you'll never gain independence.

                      You need to stop kidding yourselves.
                      I disagree. The majority of No voters in 2014 were aged 65+. EU citizens were allowed to vote and most voted No because they were told we would have to leave the EU if Yes won so they would to go home. Those EU citizens will now vote Yes plus all the 16-17 year olds in polls show 70%+ for Yes.

                      We started in 2012 with around 26% and got to 45% in 2014. This time we will be starting from around 50% and will increase during a campaign. Polls have shown that if Brexit happens (now a certainty), Yes will go to 62% to start with.

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