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    The UK government has been clear all along about what it wants. It wants everything it has now but without the consequent obligations to conform to EU rules and to pay to support the EU project.

    All along, and right now, the EU have been saying "What do you want to forfeit? If you forfeit a lot you can have good access to your existing markets in the EU. If you want the freedom to play fast and loose then you will have a much more constrained access. You choose. Our recommendation has always been don't do Brexit at all. There is no other option that warrants recommendation from our side".

    This is of course entirely unreasonable. And undemocratic - the British People voted in a referendum (albeit illegal in a number of respects) to have their cake and eat it. The British People voted in a general election for a government that would give them what they wanted (and in double-quick time.) The EU needs to do the decent thing and recognise those sovereign decisions!!!.
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    Why would the uk want to do any negotiations with the EU?

    I'm sure that everything the uk wants and needs, they can get it from papa Trump.

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    Indeed the EU will probably give good access based on current regulation, and then turn the thumb screws adding in barriers as the UK government starts to deviate.

    This means the EU will be constant "weeping sore" for all legislative decisions.

    In the end the UK will be slowly worn down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlasterBates View Post
    Indeed the EU will probably give good access based on current regulation, and then turn the thumb screws adding in barriers as the UK government starts to deviate.

    This means the EU will be constant "weeping sore" for all legislative decisions.

    In the end the UK will be slowly worn down.

    And of course they'll punish the UK for leaving because we were their cash cow etc etc etc etc
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    Oh, UK starting to show it’s hand:
    Brexit: 'No alignment' with EU on regulation, Javid tells business - BBC News

    That’s going to go down well with regulated businesses, such as med/pharma.
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    Yup looks like the UK will "attempt" to play hard ball.

    Boris Johnson expected to open trade talks with US before negotiating with the EU

    Lets see how that goes. It's going to be entertaining.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WTFH View Post
    Oh, UK starting to show it’s hand:
    Brexit: 'No alignment' with EU on regulation, Javid tells business - BBC News

    That’s going to go down well with regulated businesses, such as med/pharma.
    If UK regs are a down grade they will ignore them and stick to the EU versions so they can continue to sell into the EU. If they are harsher, i.e. more expensive to comply with, they will up sticks and move.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WTFH View Post
    Oh, UK starting to show it’s hand:
    Brexit: 'No alignment' with EU on regulation, Javid tells business - BBC News

    That’s going to go down well with regulated businesses, such as med/pharma.
    What it does show is that you cannot trust this government, they speak with forked tongues:

    Javid once said the UK’s best economic place was to remain in the EU and the single market. In May 2016, a month before the referendum he said the only thing guaranteed about leaving the bloc was a decade of “stagnation and doubt”.

    “Just like the Bank of England governor, Mark Carney, and IMF head Christine Lagarde, I still believe that Britain is better off in. And that’s all because of the single market.


    “It’s a great invention, one that even Lady Thatcher campaigned enthusiastically to create. The world’s largest economic bloc, it gives every business in Britain access to 500 million customers with no barriers, no tariffs and no local legislation to worry about,” he said in an article in the Daily Telegraph.
    Brexit is having a wee in the middle of the room at a house party because nobody is talking to you, and then complaining about the smell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveB View Post
    If UK regs are a down grade they will ignore them and stick to the EU versions so they can continue to sell into the EU. If they are harsher, i.e. more expensive to comply with, they will up sticks and move.
    Here’s an example - not of manufacturing, but of importing.
    Currently if a business imports medical devices into the EU, they have to get a certificate of compliance as the importer. (Can’t remember the exact term for it, I apologise). This code is printed on the packaging at the time of manufacture. There can only be one code on the packaging.
    If the product is coded as valid for import into the EU, then currently it can be used anywhere in the EU under that certificate. If we break all ties with the EU, then any medical device or implant imported into the EU will not be legal to import into the UK, and any product where the cert is for import into the UK will not be legal to import into the EU.

    The solution is that the manufacturer now has to get two import certificates, arrange for a second import company, split their manufacturing so that the products packages are legal, and update their supply chain process.

    Nothing major, time consuming or expensive about that. It normally takes 2 years to get an import licence.
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