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    In any case what is it the UK is protecting Europe against?

    The only country that has invoked article 5 is the US.

    Banging on about commitments is nothing more than trying to extort a bit more money from other countries. The US doesn't spend 2% on defence because it is diligently keeping to its NATO commitments, it spends on defence for its own National interest.

    If Trump wanted to spend 1% GDP on defence he won't be asking anyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlasterBates View Post
    In any case what is it the UK is protecting Europe against?

    The only country that has invoked article 5 is the US.

    Banging on about commitments is nothing more than trying to extort a bit more money from other countries. The US doesn't spend 2% on defence because it is diligently keeping to its NATO commitments, it spends on defence for its own National interest.

    If Trump wanted to spend 1% GDP on defence he won't be asking anyone.

    Well, that's completely irrelevant information.

    My question was: Do you think countries should stand by their commitments?

    Countries in NATO commit to spending 2% of GDP on defence. Only a small number of the members meet their commitment.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BlasterBates View Post
    The Europeans pay the US for their bases in Europe, so Trump won't be going anywhere.

    There are no UK bases in Europe.
    <ahem>Germany | The British Army

    Just saying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zigenare View Post
    <ahem>Germany | The British Army

    Just saying.
    and Cyprus, Malta, Gibraltar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BR14 View Post
    and Cyprus, Malta, Gibraltar.
    Just thought I'd rub it in about Germany...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zigenare View Post
    Just thought I'd rub it in about Germany...
    What, this bit?

    With the announcement of the Strategic Defence and Security Review (SDSR) of 2010, the Government stated that it would rebase the British Army from Germany to the UK by 2020. In-line with this the re-basing has now been completed and the surplus estate is being handed back to the German authorities.
    Only one NAAFI left at the moment and presumably BFBS will disappear soon which is a shame as I listen to it while working up north, it's also much, much better than AFN...
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    Quote Originally Posted by BR14 View Post
    and Cyprus, Malta, Gibraltar.
    None in Malta sonce 1979 and even the link that Zigenare doesn't mention the country
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zigenare View Post
    Just thought I'd rub it in about Germany...
    oh yeah

    Almost all British troops to be pulled out of Germany by 2020

    The defence ministry said it would keep around 185 army personnel and 60 defence ministry civilians in Germany once all the other units leave.
    Is that what you call a base?

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    Has anyone see the aircraft carrier?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BR14 View Post
    and Cyprus, Malta, Gibraltar.
    WW2 ended in 1945.

    Gibralter is part of Britain, and so is a bit of Cyprus.
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