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    Even when you make the facts very small, there's still not enough room in vetran's head to contain them. .

    My grans were born in 1908 and 1912 respectively. They both served in WW2. Not much time for teddys. I don't exactly what they did - but I do know that a few of one of my grans' cousins were SOE agents in occupied France.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vetran View Post
    actually their 'citizens' have killed 10 times as many as the government did:

    Statistical breakdown of deaths in the Troubles of Northern Ireland 1969 – 2001 | Belfast Child

    I suppose we should have just rounded them up and exterminated them?
    So when terrorists kill innocent people, it's ok for a government to open fire on its own citizen on a protest march and kill 14 of them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eirikur View Post
    Germany was involved in 5 wars/conflicts since WW2 all under UN/NATO umbrella
    Uk was involved in around 30, including civil war in NI, killing their own citizen and many of them not under UN/NATO umbrella

    Which country is more peaceful I wonder
    How many Muslim men and Boys have we loaded onto trucks and sent to their deaths?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zigenare View Post
    How many Muslim men and Boys have we loaded onto trucks and sent to their deaths?

    I'd be checking out my own back yard little dutch boy!
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    Quote Originally Posted by WTFH View Post
    When you say the "Americans saved us", they sold/loaned us troops, equipment and supplies. The initial US involvement in WWII was not about them wanting to "save an ally" it was a financial transaction.
    Very nearly bankrupted us, in fact. We only finished paying them off a few years ago. The hidden payment was giving up all of our existing colonies, which you may or may not see as a good consequence. Meanwhile, Germany was rebuilt by US funds (as was Japan) with no repayment conditions. It would be an interesting exercise to compare how much better off financially the UK would have been if we'd lost the war. We'd be speaking German, obviously, but we'd be driving the same German cars, and using the same German household consumer products. We'd still have the same Royal Family, for fairly obvious reasons, but some interesting questions arise. As in, did we really win the war?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eirikur View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mordac View Post
    Germany was rebuilt by US funds (as was Japan) with no repayment conditions.
    It was also a loan. The Marshall plan was a mixture of grants and loans. The Germans initially received only loans, but the US relented and in the end they got the same conditions as the UK and France.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlasterBates View Post
    60 million Indians died of starvation under British rule whilst the UK was exporting wheat from India to the UK.

    yeah and your proof is where?

    you nobrainers do make tulip up!
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    Quote Originally Posted by vetran View Post
    yeah and your proof is where?

    you nobrainers do make tulip up!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlasterBates View Post
    It was also a loan. The Marshall plan was a mixture of grants and loans. The Germans initially received only loans, but the US relented and in the end they got the same conditions as the UK and France.
    A loan which was neither enforced nor fully repaid. The only country which fully repaid US loans (under the Marshall Plan) dating back to WWII was the UK. Germany had a massive reduction granted in the 1950's because the US didn't want to tip them back to where they were in the 1920's, following WWI, which spawned the Nazis. You probably need to read up on AJP Taylor at this point, but I'd caution you, it's mostly as dull as dishwater.
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