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Breaking - Boris will sign new treaty in Compiègne, France

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    #21
    Originally posted by vetran View Post
    Is it better than we had before we joined the EU? Looks like it to me.
    Swimming in Cairo (In denial).

    Originally posted by Mordac View Post
    We've gone from being largely ignored to being completely ignored. On the plus side, we can't be forced into the Euro, or any form of European nation state. I'll take that overall as an improvement on what we had before.
    Swimming in Paris (Insane).

    But at least you're both happy. Which is a benefit as well. Merry Christmas.
    Down with racism. Long live miscegenation!

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      #22
      Originally posted by GigiBronz View Post
      It’s more complex than that... it depends on the class of people. Rulling class would probably be better off, normal working class have just lost a lot of rights and liberties.

      Maybe it stays a fair country that will thrive in the new world.

      But for now At least we have some closure, we can see the reality with different eyes and have the next conversations to be had.

      For me the analogy is similar to naming Southend on the Sea a beach resort, it is decent if you haven’t seen anything different in your life. A bit shoddy in some parts.
      Definetly would not swim in the watter and more than 5 hours and you will be bored.
      But is far worse than even the budget resorts in Eastern Europe without taking in consideration French, Spanish, Italian, Greek coasts.

      You are talking about the Nation that outlawed the slave trade first when it cost us >40% of our GDP later followed by our European neighbours. Something we then defended with our blood.

      We and our colonies were some of the first nations to grant females the vote.

      We granted workers rights well before many other nations.

      We showed the way with rights in the EU,

      Food standards will be at current levels ad historically we have a record for having higher standards.

      Food and animal feed safety risk analysis from 1 January 2021 | Food Standards Agency

      So which rights are we losing?
      Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.

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        #23
        Originally posted by vetran View Post
        You are talking about the Nation that outlawed the slave trade first when it cost us >40% of our GDP later followed by our European neighbours. Something we then defended with our blood.
        That was because the continuous wars away from home and population disapproval apart from the fact they were costing too many casulties and money so britain jumped on the other side of the fence. But at the same time kept control of former dependencies with the financial system.
        Was there an episode about sympathy to the “Boers”? I can’t remember...

        The rest is arguable as well.
        I am not saying that Britain is bad and did not do what others did as part of those time. Nor that it is not one of the freest countries in EU(that might change).

        But this type of exagerated patriotism lead by delusion and pride that is clouding the minds today to see on issues that are actually affecting us.
        British citizens will be stripped of most of a lot of freedoms in January and no matter how bad it will get in here they won’t have a way out.

        What will stop the rulling class work people 12h a day, impose paid healthcare, water down food and employment standards when people don’t have a way out?
        Will they revolt? They’ll use advanced AI and softwares from Palantir to target rebels and chase them for fabricated debts, prosecute them for minor charged and just subdue everyone.
        Freedom is having options...

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          #24
          And the prosperous Britain with no red that that will thrive and conquer the new world is a delusion as well.
          The opportunities are limited and could have been done equally the same while in the EU. Is EU stopping us becoming first class in SW development, AI, automation? Of course not, unless you want to work people to death and bring ships of immigrants, put them in workhouses and work them to death as well.

          It doesn’t make any sense unless the people in power wanted financial transparency for the dark financial markets.

          There is a book “thresure islands by nicholas shaxson” that might say about that although not entireley sure yet.

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            #25
            Originally posted by GigiBronz View Post
            That was because the continuous wars away from home and population disapproval apart from the fact they were costing too many casulties and money so britain jumped on the other side of the fence. But at the same time kept control of former dependencies with the financial system.
            Was there an episode about sympathy to the “Boers”? I can’t remember...

            The rest is arguable as well.
            I am not saying that Britain is bad and did not do what others did as part of those time. Nor that it is not one of the freest countries in EU(that might change).

            But this type of exagerated patriotism lead by delusion and pride that is clouding the minds today to see on issues that are actually affecting us.
            British citizens will be stripped of most of a lot of freedoms in January and no matter how bad it will get in here they won’t have a way out.

            What will stop the rulling class work people 12h a day, impose paid healthcare, water down food and employment standards when people don’t have a way out?
            Will they revolt? They’ll use advanced AI and softwares from Palantir to target rebels and chase them for fabricated debts, prosecute them for minor charged and just subdue everyone.
            Freedom is having options...

            >40% of GDP yeah of course you are right.
            Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.

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              #26
              Originally posted by vetran View Post
              >40% of GDP yeah of course you are right.
              People of those times were living in slums and deprecating eating habbits. I am sure they did not see any loss in living standards because of that.

              Those 40% could have been easily shifted towards tax havens and no longer appeared on UK balance sheets.
              What does GDP mean for the average person anyway? Not in theory but actually? How does it correlated with everyone’s wellbeing?

              USA has a heathy GDP, how do you think those people working 3 jobs to make ends meet and pay for insulin that they have to take because they got screwed over with GM food and garbage wrapped with a bow? Nothing.

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                #27


                Brexit is having a wee in the middle of the room at a house party because nobody is talking to you, and then complaining about the smell.

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                  #28
                  Press corner | European Commission

                  The draft EU-UK Trade and Cooperation Agreement | European Commission
                  Brexit is having a wee in the middle of the room at a house party because nobody is talking to you, and then complaining about the smell.

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