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    #21
    Originally posted by Eirikur View Post
    No they are not, every EU country is free to set there own approvals, strategies and procurement rules on medicines and vaccinations
    I don't know where you read (or dreamt) that, but it wasn't in the news. The EU has taken over on this one, as the squealing from countries like Ireland (among others) will testify. One day, you'll learn to follow orders, and you'd better get used to it.
    His heart is in the right place - shame we can't say the same about his brain...

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      #22
      Originally posted by Mordac View Post
      I don't know where you read (or dreamt) that, but it wasn't in the news. The EU has taken over on this one, as the squealing from countries like Ireland (among others) will testify. One day, you'll learn to follow orders, and you'd better get used to it.
      Which is why some countries have sourced vaccines from elsewhere...
      Brexit is having a wee in the middle of the room at a house party because nobody is talking to you, and then complaining about the smell.

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        #23
        Originally posted by vetran View Post
        Whatever gets you through the night.

        I prefer facts.
        And yet you still voted out

        At least with Spuddy we know he can't understand facts, so he will believe any old tulip
        I am what I drink, and I'm a bitter man

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          #24
          Originally posted by Eirikur View Post
          No they are not, every EU country is free to set there own approvals, strategies and procurement rules on medicines and vaccinations
          Their.

          EU countries cannot negotiate separate vaccine deals - EU chief | Reuters

          EU countries are not allowed to negotiate separate vaccine deals with pharmaceutical companies in parallel to the efforts of the European Union as a whole, the president of the European Commission Ursula von der Leyen said on Friday.

          “The only framework we are negotiating in is as 27. We do this together and no member state on this legal binding basis is allowed to negotiate in parallel or to have a contract in parallel,” von der Leyen told reporters in Brussels.

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            #25
            Oh yes they can but they need to exit the EU programme and then they would have wait even longer and spend even more money.

            There's nothing in EU law about how governments purchase vaccines.

            The UK's contracts were concluded when the UK was under EU law. Other countries could have done the same.
            I'm alright Jack

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              #26
              Originally posted by BlasterBates View Post
              Oh yes they can but they need to exit the EU programme and then they would have wait even longer and spend even more money.

              There's nothing in EU law about how governments purchase vaccines.

              The UK's contracts were concluded when the UK was under EU law. Other countries could have done the same.
              I was being specific to this pandemic. It would be daft for the EU to control all vaccine purchasing and distribution in normal times. Both answers are right, I'd say. It depends on whether you're talking pandemic purchasing or day to day.

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                #27
                Meanwhile......in the EU....

                Originally posted by ns1 View Post
                And we've just passed another major milestone...

                100,000 deaths
                And the EU has 449395* deaths, your point is?



                *Source
                Originally posted by Stevie Wonder Boy
                I can't see any way to do it can you please advise?

                I want my account deleted and all of my information removed, I want to invoke my right to be forgotten.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by ladymuck View Post
                  I was being specific to this pandemic. It would be daft for the EU to control all vaccine purchasing and distribution in normal times. Both answers are right, I'd say. It depends on whether you're talking pandemic purchasing or day to day.
                  Countries even when they're in the programme can still do their own deals. The only proviso is that vaccines ordered via the programme are not delayed.

                  Thanks to deep pockets, Germany snaps up extra coronavirus jabs – POLITICO

                  Germany, a country of 83 million people, said it's getting 94 million doses of the BioNTech/Pfizer vaccine, 64 million from the EU and 30 million from a separate bilateral deal. On top of that, Berlin will buy doses that other countries don't buy, securing 50 million of 160 million Moderna doses — far more than its pro-rata allocation.
                  This makes sense as it means countries without vaccine manufacturing can start their vaccination programmes. Whereas EU countries are exporting to countries without any local manufacturing, the UK is keeping all the vaccines for themselves. Still fair dos they've done it cleverly by building it into the contract instead of using export controls. I think the UK government has done an excellent job of hogging vaccines whilst shifting the blame of vaccine nationalism onto the EU, respect!
                  Last edited by BlasterBates; 30 January 2021, 11:39.
                  I'm alright Jack

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by BlasterBates View Post
                    Still fair dos they've done it cleverly by building it into the contract instead of using export controls. I think the UK government has done an excellent job of hogging vaccines whilst shifting the blame of vaccine nationalism onto the EU, respect!
                    Kind of leaves bitter taste with all that - pandemic will end but EU will still be there for centuries.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by AtW View Post
                      Kind of leaves bitter taste with all that - pandemic will end but EU will still be there for a thousand years.

                      FTFY
                      Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.

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