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    Quote Originally Posted by TheFaQQer View Post
    Unless the FTC is with the agent themselves.
    One of two things I reckon:-

    1. Client has thought sod it I aint paying £300 a day after all and agent has admitted your last employment was FTC. So between they thought they'd try this one.

    2. Agent knows you've done FTC before so as above, hes trying to get you onto a FTC with the agency and make a massive deal for himself off the client.
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    Quote Originally Posted by psychocandy View Post
    One of two things I reckon:-

    1. Client has thought sod it I aint paying £300 a day after all and agent has admitted your last employment was FTC. So between they thought they'd try this one.

    2. Agent knows you've done FTC before so as above, hes trying to get you onto a FTC with the agency and make a massive deal for himself off the client.
    I very much doubt number 2 as it then means the OP has a ton of legal rights that agents can't weedle out of. I would be very surprised indeed if an agent would be willing to take on all these responsibilities just as a chance to get more cash out of the deal. It's an extremely high risk strategy. They may have a plan to do this right from the start but to try it on just because the OP has an FTC on their CV I would very much doubt. They either run it as an approved strategy like Hays used to do with Barclays or they don't.

    I also think clients don't turn round and think 'Sod that' and 'try stuff on'.

    Maybe not judging everyone by your own standards would open up options you never thought of before.
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    I can't see how this has happened, the old "client likes you but wanted to pay £30 a day less" etc.. You can understand what's going on, but this?

    The agency aren't gonna see any more moola for poster going fixed term; poster isn't winning by going fixed term; clients aren't normally on the ball enough to pish around like this at last minute and would they want to carry on searching for the right man/woman just because of this last second dicking around?

    Are you sure this was a £350 pd role as i just don't see how/why this would occur?

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    Quote Originally Posted by northernladuk View Post
    I very much doubt number 2 as it then means the OP has a ton of legal rights that agents can't weedle out of. I would be very surprised indeed if an agent would be willing to take on all these responsibilities just as a chance to get more cash out of the deal. It's an extremely high risk strategy. They may have a plan to do this right from the start but to try it on just because the OP has an FTC on their CV I would very much doubt. They either run it as an approved strategy like Hays used to do with Barclays or they don't.

    I also think clients don't turn round and think 'Sod that' and 'try stuff on'.

    Maybe not judging everyone by your own standards would open up options you never thought of before.
    So this would never happen:-

    Client manager to senior manager. So we interviewed this guy. £400 a day. But hes done FTC before - like charlie we had in before xmas, remember him?

    Senior manager. £300 a day? Nah. Like you said hes done FTC before. PHone agency to offer him £30K pro rata 6 months FTC. He'll accept that. Save us a fortune that will.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OnceStonedRose View Post
    I can't see how this has happened, the old "client likes you but wanted to pay £30 a day less" etc.. You can understand what's going on, but this?

    The agency aren't gonna see any more moola for poster going fixed term; poster isn't winning by going fixed term; clients aren't normally on the ball enough to pish around like this at last minute and would they want to carry on searching for the right man/woman just because of this last second dicking around?

    Are you sure this was a £350 pd role as i just don't see how/why this would occur?
    OP - Did you admit at interview that your last role was FTC?

    If so, then I reckon that has got the cogs turning and someone has hatched an idea that this would be something they could offer you again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by psychocandy View Post
    OP - Did you admit at interview that your last role was FTC?

    If so, then I reckon that has got the cogs turning and someone has hatched an idea that this would be something they could offer you again.
    Why would agency go along with this hairbrain, cheapo outfit scheme, they aren't about to make anything out of it and let's be honest, that's all they give a shiny tulipe about!

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    Quote Originally Posted by psychocandy View Post
    So this would never happen:-

    Client manager to senior manager. So we interviewed this guy. £400 a day. But hes done FTC before - like charlie we had in before xmas, remember him?

    Senior manager. £300 a day? Nah. Like you said hes done FTC before. PHone agency to offer him £30K pro rata 6 months FTC. He'll accept that. Save us a fortune that will.
    Why don't you use explanations like that rather than 'Sod this' and 'trying stuff on'? You can see the difference it makes when you are trying to set a case out. This one could be slightly plausible but your original one was just rubbish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OnceStonedRose View Post
    Why would agency go along with this hairbrain, cheapo outfit scheme, they aren't about to make anything out of it and let's be honest, that's all they give a shiny tulipe about!
    Agency might have a different rate card for FTCs - could be that if they know there's no extensions in it, there's better margin in an FTC gig for them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LondonManc View Post
    Agency might have a different rate card for FTCs - could be that if they know there's no extensions in it, there's better margin in an FTC gig for them.
    Then they'd have already pushed the end client down that route surely? Wouldn't be surprised if the chap had mixed up his contacts/roles....

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    Quote Originally Posted by LondonManc View Post
    Agency might have a different rate card for FTCs - could be that if they know there's no extensions in it, there's better margin in an FTC gig for them.
    I just find this very hard to believe. It's not about margin when it comes to taking on employees. The client bumps and the agent is responsible for paying for the OP until the end of FTC? I very much doubt that, let alone all the other downsides, is in the agents risk profile let alone capability.
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