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    Quote Originally Posted by eek View Post
    I believe it was a joke
    Sometimes I think I am joking, and as NowPermOutsideUK says I don't need to work in IT any more. Heck I've been working my nuts off for the past 20 years just so that I don't have to work any more now.

    But I've been interested in computers since age 8 when I first started coding on my Commodore 64. And I still love working in IT. I'm passionate about my "job" whatever it is on a daily basis... I wake up and log in first thing, I stay until issues are resolved, I pull together lazy-arsed permies to get jobs done, I don't let the day go until I'm happy that everything is good. So I don't really want to not work in IT.... I don't want to retire from it just yet. I want to keep working on something in IT, and not just for the money any more.

    I'm just stuck in a rut and need an opportunity to move into modern skillsets. Everything is cloud these days and I'm not quite there yet. Every job description asks for 25 different skills, many of which I haven't even heard of (though that'll always be the case in IT). I'm stuck in old tech, but I have strong holistic experience in my area.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChimpMaster View Post
    Sometimes I think I am joking, and as NowPermOutsideUK says I don't need to work in IT any more. Heck I've been working my nuts off for the past 20 years just so that I don't have to work any more now.

    But I've been interested in computers since age 8 when I first started coding on my Commodore 64. And I still love working in IT. I'm passionate about my "job" whatever it is on a daily basis... I wake up and log in first thing, I stay until issues are resolved, I pull together lazy-arsed permies to get jobs done, I don't let the day go until I'm happy that everything is good. So I don't really want to not work in IT.... I don't want to retire from it just yet. I want to keep working on something in IT, and not just for the money any more.

    I'm just stuck in a rut and need an opportunity to move into modern skillsets. Everything is cloud these days and I'm not quite there yet. Every job description asks for 25 different skills, many of which I haven't even heard of (though that'll always be the case in IT). I'm stuck in old tech, but I have strong holistic experience in my area.
    I fully agree with your views. Even having the latest cloud skill sets, its still very hard to get a contract. An agent told me a few days ago is that they are seeing alot of IT professionals being made redundant as companies are offshoring the IT function to places such as India.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plonitus View Post
    I fully agree with your views. Even having the latest cloud skill sets, its still very hard to get a contract. An agent told me a few days ago is that they are seeing alot of IT professionals being made redundant as companies are offshoring the IT function to places such as India.
    Once things are remote (as they are at the moment) there is zero need for the work to be done in the UK and as I was discussing with someone yesterday it's often easier (and cheaper) to fly in from Europe than it is to get to London or other places by train..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Plonitus View Post
    I fully agree with your views. Even having the latest cloud skill sets, its still very hard to get a contract. An agent told me a few days ago is that they are seeing alot of IT professionals being made redundant as companies are offshoring the IT function to places such as India.
    My view is in high cost locations (such as the UK) there will be fewer IT jobs, but the ones that do exist will be higher paid and more specialist.


    General IT bods will be replaced by remote / offshore workers, RPA, and low paid permies.
    I design idiot proof software. Trouble is, they keep making better idiots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eek View Post
    That tells me he can bulltulip but doesn't tell me he has any actual skills.

    And a look at his profile confirms exactly that - he has an MBA after 2 years as a code monkey in India and 2 years working in Primark while doing a second / third rate MBA at a former poly.
    He also can't wear a face mask...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plonitus View Post
    I fully agree with your views. Even having the latest cloud skill sets, its still very hard to get a contract. An agent told me a few days ago is that they are seeing alot of IT professionals being made redundant as companies are offshoring the IT function to places such as India.
    Which means do whatever you have to and get through the immediate period and then kerching when outsourced to India projects inevitably **** up and they need people to fix the tulip... remember which companies lowered their rates then gouge them...

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    A quick search on jobserve for my skillset returned around 10 relevant contract job opportunities posted within the last 7 days in the whole UK. Half of them at least are just for cv harvesting (same agencies I've never heard of posting the same spec week after week after week).

    At what point can someone say the contract market for their skillset is dead? Does the number of roles need to reach 0?

    I'm finishing my contract tomorrow and taking the rest of the year off

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChimpMaster View Post
    Can I have a job please?
    Unfortunately I am no longer recruiting...

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    Quote Originally Posted by PCTNN View Post
    A quick search on jobserve for my skillset returned around 10 relevant contract job opportunities posted within the last 7 days in the whole UK. Half of them at least are just for cv harvesting (same agencies I've never heard of posting the same spec week after week after week).

    At what point can someone say the contract market for their skillset is dead? Does the number of roles need to reach 0?

    I'm finishing my contract tomorrow and taking the rest of the year off
    I don't think it's necessarily if there are zero roles but at some point if you haven't even had an interview for 'X' months then maybe that's a better sign? For me personally, I reckon a year and then I would go off and do something different.

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    Well, my last role finished end of October, put my CV out there beginning of October and I have had loads of calls. I had three interviews and took the first offer I had. I work in the contact centre sector.

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