• Visitors can check out the Forum FAQ by clicking this link. You have to register before you can post: click the REGISTER link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below. View our Forum Privacy Policy.
  • Want to receive the latest contracting news and advice straight to your inbox? Sign up to the ContractorUK newsletter here. Every sign up will also be entered into a draw to WIN £100 Amazon vouchers!

State of the Market

Collapse
X
  •  
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

    Originally posted by GhostofTarbera View Post
    Before lockdown then

    Market feck till April now
    There isn't one market.
    "You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JR

    Comment


      Originally posted by NowPermOutsideUK View Post
      Can one infer you had to take a poor perm salary on the promise of a better one in April 2021?
      Yes and no as the pay rise is not guaranteed. The positive is that my warchest stays in my account, the mortgage is paid and I gain lots of new skills.

      For the chap asking about vacancies unfortunately they are not recruiting any new staff.

      Comment


        Originally posted by SueEllen View Post
        There isn't one market.
        Two?
        nomadd liked this post

        Comment


          Originally posted by founder View Post
          Happy Monday morn everyone, get on that fake commute to the bathroom
          I read that as: "Happy Monday morn everyone, I'll get on renovating the bathroom".
          nomadd liked this post

          Comment


            FWIW..

            Today's single role in my inbox was for a "Java Development Specialist". The development toolset requirements list was as long as your arms. Rate: £200/day. So on a 7.5hr day, that's £26.67/hr.

            The last time I was on that rate - and for once I'm being deadly seriously here - was 1989, the year I started contracting.

            I had a look on one of those "rent a contractor" websites today for the first time and found Java guys with 7+ years financial industry experience asking for as little as $15-$20 (yes, USD) per hoiur.

            All I can say is thank god I stuffed a small fortune into my pension over the last 30 years. Sometimes being over 55 has it's pluses.
            Last edited by nomadd; 2 November 2020, 20:53. Reason: Clarity
            nomadd liked this post

            Comment


              I dropped mines to 40 ph for freelance stuff

              Comment


                Originally posted by nomadd View Post
                FWIW..

                Today's single role in my inbox was for a "Java Development Specialist". The development toolset requirements list was as long as your arms. Rate: £200/day. So on a 7.5hr day, that's £26.67/hr.

                The last time I was on that rate - and for once I'm being deadly seriously here - was 1989, the year I started contracting.

                I had a look on one of those "rent a contractor" websites today for the first time and found Java guys with 7+ years financial industry experience asking for as little as $15-$20 (yes, USD) per hoiur.

                All I can say is thank god I stuffed a small fortune into my pension over the last 30 years. Sometimes being over 55 has it's pluses.
                Adjusted for inflation your first contractor rate was 400 in that case - Not bad at all ....

                Comment


                  Originally posted by NowPermOutsideUK View Post
                  Adjusted for inflation your first contractor rate was 400 in that case - Not bad at all ....
                  Yeah, was direct with client. ..Who just happened to be the CEO of the previous company I was a permie at. No IR35 issues with Fri-Mon switches in those days!
                  nomadd liked this post

                  Comment


                    Originally posted by nomadd View Post
                    FWIW..

                    Today's single role in my inbox was for a "Java Development Specialist". The development toolset requirements list was as long as your arms. Rate: £200/day. So on a 7.5hr day, that's £26.67/hr.

                    The last time I was on that rate - and for once I'm being deadly seriously here - was 1989, the year I started contracting.

                    I had a look on one of those "rent a contractor" websites today for the first time and found Java guys with 7+ years financial industry experience asking for as little as $15-$20 (yes, USD) per hoiur.

                    All I can say is thank god I stuffed a small fortune into my pension over the last 30 years. Sometimes being over 55 has it's pluses.
                    Ha! Ha!

                    My apologies to the Lady who frequents this forum. Just Java is as common as muck. In truth, it has always been, since as far back as 1997, when I started to develop Java programs, professionally. You needed Java plus X, Y, Z. For me it was investment banking knowledge, plus database servers, C, C++, I think Sybase was top of the charts then, and then it kept changing and the list grew. Also throw into the bucket, the Agile and non-technical skills to boot. Admittedly, Applets and Swing UI died off when Web 2.0 jumped off.

                    Yes, I agree with the shocking fall in rates. This came in my inbox yesterday.

                    Senior Backend Developer
                    Start: Immediate
                    Location: Remote initially, London from February 2021
                    Rate: £400 per day inside IR35
                    Duration: 6 months (will extend)
                    Key Skills/Knowledge:
                    10+ years Java experience
                    Spring Boot, Maven, Jenkins, Hibernate

                    -

                    Backend Engineer - E-Commerce
                    Start: Immediate
                    Location: Remote/London
                    Rate: £350 per day outside IR35
                    Duration: 6 months
                    Essential skills:
                    Experience developing REST, JAVA GraphQL
                    Scripting using Python
                    I mean, come on! In an office London from February 2021?!. I wonder if these people read the news.

                    Comment


                      Originally posted by rocktronAMP View Post
                      Ha! Ha!

                      My apologies to the Lady who frequents this forum. Just Java is as common as muck. In truth, it has always been, since as far back as 1997, when I started to develop Java programs, professionally. You needed Java plus X, Y, Z. For me it was investment banking knowledge, plus database servers, C, C++, I think Sybase was top of the charts then, and then it kept changing and the list grew. Also throw into the bucket, the Agile and non-technical skills to boot. Admittedly, Applets and Swing UI died off when Web 2.0 jumped off.

                      Yes, I agree with the shocking fall in rates. This came in my inbox yesterday.



                      I mean, come on! In an office London from February 2021?!. I wonder if these people read the news.
                      still wont get out of bed for either of them

                      Comment

                      Working...
                      X