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Originally posted by radish2008 View Postdo you think - in the middle of Brexit ? I think this will drag on for years. and I think businesses will structure working practices to be outside. Don't forget HMRC let Vodafone off £4bn simply because they refused to pay it. I think they're in for a bigger fight than they think.Comment
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Off-payroll working (IR35) in the private sector - HMRC announce consultation
On Friday 18th May HMRC finally opened its consultation into how to tackle what it claims is large scale non-compliance with the off-payroll working rules (IR35) in the private sector. The consultation and recommended options build on the government’s experience of the rules introduced for the public sector in April 2017.Comment
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I'm not by any means saying I support these proposed changes (for a number of good reasons you've already all provided - HMRCs ignorant approach being one of the biggest issues) but does anyone else see a possible upside being an increase in flexibility from clients in an attempt to keep their roles outside of IR35 and therefore competitive? For example, part time contracts (to allow the contractor to more easily service multiple clients at once), retainers rather than 9-5 style 'full time' roles, reduced attempts to control and direct etc.
By the way mudskipper, thanks for the link - it was an interesting read and even though I knew the tool was dire I didn't expect to see that clearly incorrect result for that particular described set of circumstances.Comment
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Interesting article. I am of the same view. If they apply it to the private sector, I'm selling up and moving to Spain continuing my contracting pursuits over there. That's over £ 50k of tax (corp tax and VAT) per annum the government will be losing, not to mention tax on the things I buy here or the impact on the products/services I buy whilst living here. Now if we ALL went along those lines, just who the hell would be paying into the system?Comment
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Originally posted by oliverson View PostInteresting article. I am of the same view. If they apply it to the private sector, I'm selling up and moving to Spain continuing my contracting pursuits over there. That's over £ 50k of tax (corp tax and VAT) per annum the government will be losing, not to mention tax on the things I buy here or the impact on the products/services I buy whilst living here. Now if we ALL went along those lines, just who the hell would be paying into the system?Comment
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Originally posted by oliverson View PostInteresting article. I am of the same view. If they apply it to the private sector, I'm selling up and moving to Spain continuing my contracting pursuits over there. That's over £ 50k of tax (corp tax and VAT) per annum the government will be losing, not to mention tax on the things I buy here or the impact on the products/services I buy whilst living here. Now if we ALL went along those lines, just who the hell would be paying into the system?Comment
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My money is still on it just never happening.
IR35 is simply a mechanism to create a state of fear.Comment
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Originally posted by oliverson View PostInteresting article. I am of the same view. If they apply it to the private sector, I'm selling up and moving to Spain continuing my contracting pursuits over there. That's over £ 50k of tax (corp tax and VAT) per annum the government will be losing, not to mention tax on the things I buy here or the impact on the products/services I buy whilst living here. Now if we ALL went along those lines, just who the hell would be paying into the system?
Originally posted by 1manshow View PostI guess they are gambling on the possibility that most people end up staying in the UK.
Originally posted by OneManBand View PostSurely the main effect will be daily rates going up drastically, as contractors try to recoup the lost earnings?
Originally posted by radish2008 View PostMy money is still on it just never happening.
IR35 is simply a mechanism to create a state of fear.Comment
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