Im completely baffled by this whole area. I completely understand MOO, control and supervision and all the rules around being a genuine freelancer.
Because we do not engage with workers in this way and because I do not want to risk any HMRC fines I am only hiring PAYE developers but these are like unicorns it appears.
When the agencies keep pushing me on my reasons for dismissing sole traders, people with limited companies and umbrella companies, I explain anyone looking at the IR35 regulations or HMRC online test would clearly see we are not treating people like freelancers. The answers I get back are
1) but everyone is doing it, BBC etc (erm didnt they get into trouble for this !!!)
2) oh its okay we have contracts that say anyone we find is definitely a contractor (HMRC told me they do not give a fig about contract wording, its how the person is actually working they look at)
So am I the only person in the UK having this issue? Am I missing something ? I spoke to one agency and the legal team who actually said "oh dont worry we get around the HMRC by having wording in contract and just warning clients and contractors about this area !!!!!!!) Another young recruiter said he had to ask his boss what PAYE was
Can anyone shed light on this area as feel I am going nuts, meantime the IT directors are so mad at me as I cant find them staff !!
Where can I find regular
Because we do not engage with workers in this way and because I do not want to risk any HMRC fines I am only hiring PAYE developers but these are like unicorns it appears.
When the agencies keep pushing me on my reasons for dismissing sole traders, people with limited companies and umbrella companies, I explain anyone looking at the IR35 regulations or HMRC online test would clearly see we are not treating people like freelancers. The answers I get back are
1) but everyone is doing it, BBC etc (erm didnt they get into trouble for this !!!)
2) oh its okay we have contracts that say anyone we find is definitely a contractor (HMRC told me they do not give a fig about contract wording, its how the person is actually working they look at)
So am I the only person in the UK having this issue? Am I missing something ? I spoke to one agency and the legal team who actually said "oh dont worry we get around the HMRC by having wording in contract and just warning clients and contractors about this area !!!!!!!) Another young recruiter said he had to ask his boss what PAYE was
Can anyone shed light on this area as feel I am going nuts, meantime the IT directors are so mad at me as I cant find them staff !!
Where can I find regular
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