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Ok, just one of the examples from over the years; this one from a few months ago: Welcome to - That Works For Me
Also, PCG and IPSE a have both tried, or partnering with others, to provide such a service; neither has succeeded. PCG/IPSE had millions to throw at this and even they couldn't get it past my roving eye.
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Originally posted by JacobMason View PostNope, not in its entirety. Although the most obvious way we cut cost is to have no recruiters.
That only works if you can generate business. So whether you do that with a salesman, a recruiter, or both, it's still the same basic business model with different monickers applied to the front men.
Forget those who have tried and failed. And ask why the agencies don't do what you suggest to offer a competitive advantage? They don't because there's nothing new to offer and there's no money in it.
The money is in the margin of providing the resource and you just haven't got that in what you describe.See You Next TuesdayComment
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Originally posted by wattaj View PostOk, just one of the examples from over the years; this one from a few months ago: Welcome to - That Works For Me
And another, now defunct, offering: Contractor Club – Making Agencies Redundant? - Contractor Weekly---
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Originally posted by eek View PostNot really as India is far cheaper once you've actually specified what you need them to do.
I need a Facebook clone. $10 budget, by Friday.
Or "I need an app to do x" where x is some complicated process that they have not defined.
Pph could be good, but for Dev work it's not.
And if you think youre going to charge a normal day rate when you're competing with remote devs in India working for £20 a day.... Well, that's basically why I stopped using it.Comment
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Originally posted by wattaj View Post"Recruiters" are not an operational expense for your business model. YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND YOUR OPEX.
There's no need to go full caps.Comment
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Originally posted by Snarf View PostHave you seen the requirements people put on pph?
I need a Facebook clone. $10 budget, by Friday.
Or "I need an app to do x" where x is some complicated process that they have not defined.
Pph could be good, but for Dev work it's not.
And if you think youre going to charge a normal day rate when you're competing with remote devs in India working for £20 a day.... Well, that's basically why I stopped using it.
We don't like the idea of contractors bidding for work, instead a rate is advertised and contractors apply for the contract at that rate.Comment
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Originally posted by JacobMason View PostThere's no need to go full caps.---
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Originally posted by wattaj View PostThere really is; and you know that. You should also know, but I doubt that you actually do, that you're missing the point entirely: you have no idea what your operating costs are likely to be or where they will arise.
At this time there may be costs we may not aware of, but that does not mean that we have no idea. We're still in the discovery phase of an idea that is not fully fleshed out.
We're here to get feedback from the target audience so that we can get it right.Last edited by JacobMason; 18 December 2019, 12:47.Comment
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Originally posted by JacobMason View PostA typical agency has recruiters, recruiters are staff, staff is an opex.
There's no need to go full caps.
Staff maybe?
No matter how you twist and turn you're either an agency or you have no business modelСлава Україні! Героям слава!Comment
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