Originally posted by LondonManc
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Expect moves you closer to MoO.
If ladymuck had any sense (and she does give that impression) then it will be deliverable based. As a client, if I offer out to tender a deliverable to be completed in a timeframe at a price, then if someone delivers that, I'm happy. If they have a complex code generator that they can leverage that they've built themselves and can do 40 hours of work in 20, then fair play to them. That's none of my business, I just want my deliverable to an acceptable standard. Are you brave enough to get your wife to wash the dishes *and* tell her how to do it?
It doesn't really matter what we think we can do or what mentality we have. I totally get the theory, I really do. The reality is completely different. You survey a good chunk of clients and ask if they'd be happy paying £500 a day when the contractor can do it in half the time and are doing the same to another client and I'll bet all but a couple (and even then down to certain roles) will not entertain it. If they do they are either mismanaging the deliverables and the contractor pulling their pants down or it really is a true deliverable and time won't matter. The later will be a very small percentage of clients.
Not saying it can't happen but I'll bet the balance of taking the piss vs a above board delivery will be heavily weighted on one side.
The fact that the OP is having to ask this and one of his gigs in via an umbrella there for (assumed) a disguised permie role not ring anyone's alarm bells at all? Really?
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