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Cutting out the middleman, working direct?
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Originally posted by Paralytic View PostWhy is going direct better for IR35?merely at clientco for the entertainmentComment
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Originally posted by Paralytic View PostWhy is going direct better for IR35?Comment
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Originally posted by jamesbrown View PostRe-read that post. It wasn’t just about going direct, rather about ad-hoc work (e.g., see SPL vs. HMRC).Comment
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Originally posted by Paralytic View PostI did, and it is potentially ambiguous. So, going direct does not, in itself, change the profile risk that comes from IR35, but I accept the nature of such engagement may mean other mitigations can be put in place (eg ability to amend the contract).Comment
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Originally posted by jamesbrown View PostAgree. It’s causation vs. correlation. Going direct in itself is irrelevant because the hypothetical contract ignores *all* intermediaries. However, going direct is quite often correlated with good working practices.
If you are going direct they are using you to solve a problem they have.
If they are using an agency they are looking at an employee type relationship to solve that problem.
Yes IR35 is an still a possible issue (as is blanket bans on PSCs) but there is clearly a better relationship provided you are on project based work (and subsequent support work is on connected to that project work).merely at clientco for the entertainmentComment
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Originally posted by Paralytic View PostI did, and it is potentially ambiguous. So, going direct does not, in itself, change the profile risk that comes from IR35, but I accept the nature of such engagement may mean other mitigations can be put in place (eg ability to amend the contract).
In my case, it's also involved a bit of juggling multiple clients and such. Again, not definitive in themselves (And we all know IR35 is per contract blah blah) but in my case direct is synonymous with being miles away from IR35.
The downside being stupidity like still having a weeks work of work to book in on a project that should have finished back in the summer.Last edited by vwdan; 21 October 2020, 09:40.Comment
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Originally posted by eek View PostI would have thought it was simple:-
If you are going direct they are using you to solve a problem they have.
If they are using an agency they are looking at an employee type relationship to solve that problem.
Yes IR35 is an still a possible issue (as is blanket bans on PSCs) but there is clearly a better relationship provided you are on project based work (and subsequent support work is on connected to that project work).Comment
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