If you are not getting interviews

[DodgyAgent]

Thanks DA, managed to get sorted. I'll drop a copy across anyway but obviously missing out my latest role.

I find it hard to believe that so many people have fallen for your 'CV farming' exercise. Good luck in prising some guys out of their roles and replacing them with offshore resource!

I've got a job for you in India MF

[tim123]

Thanks DA, managed to get sorted. I'll drop a copy across anyway but obviously missing out my latest role.

I find it hard to believe that so many people have fallen for your 'CV farming' exercise.

I intend on reporting back what happens.

I have no problem giving him a copy of my CV.

He isn't going to get any leads from it. If any of the 10 clients on my CV were recruiting, I'd be working right now. 6 of them have closed down completely (either the specific site or the whole company) and one of them no longer has a development team at the location I worked at, which only leaves three. Of those three, one is only just avoiding drowning, one has been through three mergers since I worked there so it has a completely different name and the other one, having been bitten by UK agents in the past, is impossible to get into without the support of a local agency.

tim

[MarillionFan]

I intend on reporting back what happens.

I have no problem giving him a copy of my CV.

He isn't going to get any leads from it. If any of the 10 clients on my CV were recruiting, I'd be working right now. 6 of them have closed down completely (either the specific site or the whole company)

tim

Adams, Woolworths, Officers Club, Wine Rack, MFI, Discount Shoes?

[xoggoth]

I am not getting any interviews or jobs because I am not applying for any but will PM you anyway as you may be able to tell me where I'm going wrong.

[IBM Agent]

Adams, Woolworths, Officers Club, Wine Rack, MFI, Discount Shoes?

very good.

[tim123]

Adams, Woolworths, Officers Club, Wine Rack, MFI, Discount Shoes?

Ferranti, Ionica, Marconi, Siemens Mobile, and lots of smaller companies that most won't have heard of.

tim

[CalmEddie]

what is to say you're reliable, can do what you say you can do, are honest, have integrity etc.

Unfortunately there is VAST precedent of agents who have none of these values, who then go and pester our references and give them the hard sell.

Which means I end up without any referees because they are too cheesed off with all the cold calling. I only have a few referees, there are hundreds of thousands of agents. Also those looking for work might apply for 20 jobs to get one, can the referee really be expected to answer 20 sets of references just to get one role?

I think the agencies need a way to fix this. And it should certainly involve me receiving a signed non-exploitation agreement.

[Tarquin Farquhar]

Unfortunately there is VAST precedent of agents who have none of these values, who then go and pester our references and give them the hard sell.

Which means I end up without any referees because they are too cheesed off with all the cold calling. I only have a few referees, there are hundreds of thousands of agents. Also those looking for work might apply for 20 jobs to get one, can the referee really be expected to answer 20 sets of references just to get one role?

I think the agencies need a way to fix this. And it should certainly involve me receiving a signed non-exploitation agreement.

Agreed. Bad enough that they spam our referees, then to condemn us for being hesitant about providing them is ludicrous.

As for not knowing people, you could always start with a working presumption of normality. There are exceptions on both sides, but contractors are normally OK, agents are normally turds.

[Tarquin Farquhar]

any part of the business that does not involve me having to listen to tw*ts who speel out "we've got a PSL"

Can't blame you there. PSLs are evil. My current client has a PSL, for any given department it is a list of exactly ONE agency. Strangely, this does not seem to get good contractors supplied efficiently. I'd rather say that the sole supplier holds off on providing contractors for weeks, until the client will accept less for more money, and the contractor will accept a MacRate. PM complains that it's very difficult to get contractors ..... yeah, it's well-known that the bench is empty these days.

[the_duderama]

Can't blame you there. PSLs are evil. My current client has a PSL, for any given department it is a list of exactly ONE agency. Strangely, this does not seem to get good contractors supplied efficiently. I'd rather say that the sole supplier holds off on providing contractors for weeks, until the client will accept less for more money, and the contractor will accept a MacRate. PM complains that it's very difficult to get contractors ..... yeah, it's well-known that the bench is empty these days.

Seems the market is getting skewed by comical requirements, PSL's and poor quality agents. Net result being the work if offshored/onshored for the same rate they could pay a decent contractor, poor systems/support for the client, no work for the contractor, and a loss of income for the agent.