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Originally posted by jmo21 View PostOk, I'll bite.....
Most big companies will not tell you anything negative about a ex-employee/contractor, company rules are usually in place, so that company is protected from being sued.
How do TAV and the other agents on here answer that?
Is your experience different to mine in that respect? Do you hope to get the inside track on a call with someone from client co? ie. off the record
Secondly, is the obvious "off the record" conversation.
Third is to get a simple yes/no response to the question of whether they'd employ that company again in the right circumstances.
What I would say is that there is two parts to a reference - the first one being date checking, and looking for smells which resemble those of the droppings of a bovine creature, and the second being a review of outcomes and deliveries - The number of people who have laid claim to projects which they were supporting, not running, is incredible - I use it almost as a secondary qualification process.
All of the above said, you've missed the point - any agent who wants a reference, should be happy to provide you a reference on his or her services - fair's fair - they might get business from your contact, you might get business from theirs."Being a permy is like being married, when there's no more sex on the cards....and she's got fat."
SlimRick
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Originally posted by GillsMan View PostI've never had a problem with HR references when going through an agent, never.Comment
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Originally posted by The Agents View View PostAll of the above said, you've missed the point - any agent who wants a reference, should be happy to provide you a reference on his or her services - fair's fair - they might get business from your contact, you might get business from theirs.Comment
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Originally posted by jmo21 View Postthe rest is fine and pretty interesting, but the above is balls.... you have much more chance to get something from our reference than we have of yours.
If you think of yourself as a business, one of whoms assets is you, but that there are a million other possibilities which could be explored simply by opening dialogue, then actually, you open yourself up to a whole other income stream, and at that point, fair's fair.
Sharpen up guys - this recession is not going to get any shorter by considering yourself the only potential income stream to your limited company!"Being a permy is like being married, when there's no more sex on the cards....and she's got fat."
SlimRick
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Originally posted by The Agents View View PostSharpen up guys - this recession is not going to get any shorter by considering yourself the only potential income stream to your limited company!Comment
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Originally posted by The Agents View View PostSharpen up guys - this recession is not going to get any shorter by considering yourself the only potential income stream to your limited company!Originally posted by MaryPoppinsI'd still not breastfeed a naziOriginally posted by vetranUrine is quite nourishingComment
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Originally posted by The Agents View View PostIf you think like a Permie, or think of yourself as the only service that your business can provide, then yes, that's true.
If you think of yourself as a business, one of whoms assets is you, but that there are a million other possibilities which could be explored simply by opening dialogue, then actually, you open yourself up to a whole other income stream, and at that point, fair's fair.
Sharpen up guys - this recession is not going to get any shorter by considering yourself the only potential income stream to your limited company!
I think my point still stands - much easier for you to get business from my references than the other way around.
And I just can't imagine many agents giving me names from their clients as references for them. Sure you say you will on here, but I still find it pretty hard to believe.Comment
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Originally posted by jmo21 View PostI do, and I have a number of other streams on income into my company, that is not my issue - my issue is bulltulip from agents that call me asking for references while only wanting business leads.
I think my point still stands - much easier for you to get business from my references than the other way around.
And I just can't imagine many agents giving me names from their clients as references for them. Sure you say you will on here, but I still find it pretty hard to believe.
I do however have a number of written testimonials from individuals who I've worked with, to overcome the majority of doubts - if they then need further affirmation, then I am happy to provide details of someone to confirm that references are genuine etc.
Unfortunately, there is always an element of trust involved in this process - Something which I know you guys find hard with agents involved....."Being a permy is like being married, when there's no more sex on the cards....and she's got fat."
SlimRick
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