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    #21
    For one thing the Indian outsourcers are racist. Spend some time studying which caste gets promoted most quickly and you will quickly see a trend unrelated to merit. Not to mention their attitude to white Westerners.
    For another they routinely harass and bully their staff in sometimes quite terrible ways, some folk I know worked 7 days weeks, often long into the night, under terrible stress while being held over a barrel to do it.
    For another they routinely break immigration law, employment law, data protection act, intellectual property protection laws, and they lie cheat overpromise and so on
    Then another they steal British intellectual property on an industrial scale, much of which was hard won and some funded out of the British public purse via universities and so on.
    They are big tax avoiders normally paying their corporate tax in havens rather than here. Their staff get massive tax perks, first 12 months here free of both employers and employees national insurance, large number of payments allowed as expenses (and tax free) that Brits working away from home within the UK could not claim.
    Large numbers bring in families, spouse gets right to work here and displaces another Brit from the workforce, all get free healthcare regardless of many timing their visit precisely because a family member needs an expensive operation, and their children are given free schooling which clogs up the schools in many areas.
    Compare and contrast to the difficulty Brits have getting a work visa to India, the fact we have to fund our families healthcare and schooling if we do go, and so on. It’s nowhere near reciprocal.
    Then of course we have vast numbers being paid below market rates, as they only need to be paid bottom quartile for the country (averaged over the whole country) which is well below market rates in the South East.
    We have them partnered in pairs swapping alternately between here and India every 12 months, so that they are always entitled to work free of national insurance, and between the pair permanently depriving a Brit of a job.
    Far too many of them go onto gain indefinite leave to remain in this country simply for working here a while.
    They will ruthlessly cheat and lie and stamp all over your reputation.
    It’s no better than working for a slave ship owner.

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      #22
      Originally posted by CoolCat View Post
      For one thing the Indian outsourcers are racist. Spend some time studying which caste gets promoted most quickly and you will quickly see a trend unrelated to merit. Not to mention their attitude to white Westerners.
      For another they routinely harass and bully their staff in sometimes quite terrible ways, some folk I know worked 7 days weeks, often long into the night, under terrible stress while being held over a barrel to do it.
      For another they routinely break immigration law, employment law, data protection act, intellectual property protection laws, and they lie cheat overpromise and so on
      Then another they steal British intellectual property on an industrial scale, much of which was hard won and some funded out of the British public purse via universities and so on.
      They are big tax avoiders normally paying their corporate tax in havens rather than here. Their staff get massive tax perks, first 12 months here free of both employers and employees national insurance, large number of payments allowed as expenses (and tax free) that Brits working away from home within the UK could not claim.
      Large numbers bring in families, spouse gets right to work here and displaces another Brit from the workforce, all get free healthcare regardless of many timing their visit precisely because a family member needs an expensive operation, and their children are given free schooling which clogs up the schools in many areas.
      Compare and contrast to the difficulty Brits have getting a work visa to India, the fact we have to fund our families healthcare and schooling if we do go, and so on. It’s nowhere near reciprocal.
      Then of course we have vast numbers being paid below market rates, as they only need to be paid bottom quartile for the country (averaged over the whole country) which is well below market rates in the South East.
      We have them partnered in pairs swapping alternately between here and India every 12 months, so that they are always entitled to work free of national insurance, and between the pair permanently depriving a Brit of a job.
      Far too many of them go onto gain indefinite leave to remain in this country simply for working here a while.
      They will ruthlessly cheat and lie and stamp all over your reputation.
      It’s no better than working for a slave ship owner.
      Apart from that, what's your overall opinion of them...?

      Whoever gets this gig (might be me, might not), they'll be working at the client's site, not the agency. So none of the above will apply.
      Thanks for all replies.

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        #23
        WTAS except the chap who has been reading the UKIP/BNP manifesto.
        Seen Bob Shops pressured into getting a resource at short notice on site and reluctantly hiring local. They could not get rid of these people quick enough when the work had finished but that wouldn't stop me working through them, I would focus on the role, location and rate.
        Once in, I would be working the client to develop good relationships and distance myself from the bob shop with the aim of coming back in the future.

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          #24
          which bit is from the "UKIP/BNP manifesto" then?

          I have seen countless good Westerners shafted by the Indian outsourcers, I think you are naïve in the extreme to think its worth the risk.

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            #25
            Originally posted by CoolCat View Post
            For one thing the Indian outsourcers are racist. Spend some time studying which caste gets promoted most quickly and you will quickly see a trend unrelated to merit. Not to mention their attitude to white Westerners.
            For another they routinely harass and bully their staff in sometimes quite terrible ways, some folk I know worked 7 days weeks, often long into the night, under terrible stress while being held over a barrel to do it.
            For another they routinely break immigration law, employment law, data protection act, intellectual property protection laws, and they lie cheat overpromise and so on
            Then another they steal British intellectual property on an industrial scale, much of which was hard won and some funded out of the British public purse via universities and so on.
            They are big tax avoiders normally paying their corporate tax in havens rather than here. Their staff get massive tax perks, first 12 months here free of both employers and employees national insurance, large number of payments allowed as expenses (and tax free) that Brits working away from home within the UK could not claim.
            Large numbers bring in families, spouse gets right to work here and displaces another Brit from the workforce, all get free healthcare regardless of many timing their visit precisely because a family member needs an expensive operation, and their children are given free schooling which clogs up the schools in many areas.
            Compare and contrast to the difficulty Brits have getting a work visa to India, the fact we have to fund our families healthcare and schooling if we do go, and so on. It’s nowhere near reciprocal.
            Then of course we have vast numbers being paid below market rates, as they only need to be paid bottom quartile for the country (averaged over the whole country) which is well below market rates in the South East.
            We have them partnered in pairs swapping alternately between here and India every 12 months, so that they are always entitled to work free of national insurance, and between the pair permanently depriving a Brit of a job.
            Far too many of them go onto gain indefinite leave to remain in this country simply for working here a while.
            They will ruthlessly cheat and lie and stamp all over your reputation.
            It’s no better than working for a slave ship owner.
            Yes it is mainly down to Blair, Brown and co that UK jobs were exported in great numbers (without ever leaving our shores) with a consequential erosion of UK tax take. This is one of a number of deep bear traps they constructed for successive governments.
            Last edited by Taita; 10 April 2014, 16:43.

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              #26
              Originally posted by Taita View Post
              Yes it is mainly down to Blair, Brown and co that UK jobs were exported in great numbers (without ever leaving our shores) with a consequential erosion of UK tax take. This is one of a number of deep bear traps they constructed for successive governments.
              Which the coalition has now had four years to reverse.

              If the UK was making money back on exports to India I would see it as a fair trade, but doing business in India seems to be extremely hard for foreign companies.

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                #27
                Write to your MP.

                Write to UKIP, and the other parties.

                Write to the press.

                Ring the radio phone in shows

                etc

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