This Farage Immigrants with HIV Business

[Euler]

only seems to have one orifice, (s)he is using the lower one for both purposes.

I genuinely feel quite sorry for you.
It can't be easy being such a div

[d000hg]

Don't quite understand what you mean by Health insurance not backed by NHS.

BUPA is a private health insurance provider as well as a care/medical provider. I use the highest cover at BUPA and spend around 90 pounds a month as premium.

The top level of health insurance in countries without an NHS is much more than that.

The increased cost of health insurance is a central fact in any discussion of health policy and health delivery. As annual premiums edged beyond $16,800 for an average family, costs are blamed for rising uninsured and "under-insurance."

Private health in the UK piggybacks on top of the NHS.

[Euler]

The top level of health insurance in countries without an NHS is much more than that.

Private health in the UK piggybacks on top of the NHS.

The US is silly with its healthcare costs.
The US and UK health systems are opposite extremes.
The more successful health systems usually take a middle way.

Sadly the left have managed to brainwash most UK citizens that the NHS is the best way.

[d000hg]

Even the right believes in the NHS. Only the real far right oppose it, and if you look at what else those people believe, it's clear they can be discounted as reasonable-minded individuals.

It's all too easy for people who can afford private healthcare to say the NHS isn't a good idea. But virtually all of us will have been reliant on it for a fair proportion of our lives - early careers, childhood if we didn't have wealthy parents, etc. How many of us wouldn't have got to the point of being wealthy and un-needing of the NHS if it hadn't been there in the past?

The implementation may suck but "bad public services" is NOT a tautology, regardless what those who have let the privilege of money brainwash them to believe.

[Euler]

Even the right believes in the NHS. Only the real far right oppose it, and if you look at what else those people believe, it's clear they can be discounted as reasonable-minded individuals.

It's all too easy for people who can afford private healthcare to say the NHS isn't a good idea. But virtually all of us will have been reliant on it for a fair proportion of our lives - early careers, childhood if we didn't have wealthy parents, etc. How many of us wouldn't have got to the point of being wealthy and un-needing of the NHS if it hadn't been there in the past?

The implementation may suck but "bad public services" is NOT a tautology, regardless what those who have let the privilege of money brainwash them to believe.

In my earlier post I talked about brainwashing.
I rest my case.
Even more "socialist" countries like France (which was long reckoned to have the best health system in the world) don't have a completely socialistic model like the NHS.
But if you're ok with mediocrity, with having the worst cancer outcomes in the Western world for example, then you carry on.
You'll figure it out when you're old.

[d000hg]

The old people I know are grateful for the NHS.

To say people who disagree with you are brainwashed is egotistical drivel.

"Look dear, all the other kids in the marching band are out of time. I'm so proud Euler is the only one doing it right".

[FatLazyContractor]

But virtually all of us will have been reliant on it for a fair proportion of our lives - early careers, childhood if we didn't have wealthy parents, etc.

It is not a free out of the sky service, is it? Someone is paying for it.

How many of us wouldn't have got to the point of being wealthy and un-needing of the NHS if it hadn't been there in the past?.

Basic healthcare was what "most" of us needed when we were young. Basic fundamental bog-standard isn't a privilege.

[FatLazyContractor]

The old people I know are grateful for the NHS.

The question is, have they seen/experienced any system other than the NHS?

[Euler]

The old people I know are grateful for the NHS.

To say people who disagree with you are brainwashed is egotistical drivel.

"Look dear, all the other kids in the marching band are out of time. I'm so proud Euler is the only one doing it right".

You're being childish and ignorant.
I've experienced other health services and the NHS on an ongoing basis for MIL's dementia. As well as a few other instances where I used it myself.
And it's very bad.
This generation of old people usually have no benchmark to compare the service they receive, the next generation will have travelled and lived in other places and they won't tolerate the stuff that goes on currently.

[TykeMerc]

It can't be easy being such a div

You've been practising it for so long and put so much effort in, it must have got easier for even you to do by now?