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    Migrant salary rules may cost NHS nurse jobs, union warns - BBC News

    Thousands of foreign nurses working in junior posts in the UK could be forced to return home under new immigration rules, union leaders have warned.
    A new pay threshold for migrants means non-European workers will have to leave the UK after six years if they are not earning at least £35,000.
    The Royal College of Nursing said the rules would "cause chaos" for the NHS and waste money spent on recruitment.
    The Home Office said the rules would help reduce demand for migrant labour.
    The move is part of the government's effort to control net migration, but the union says that by 2017 more than 3,300 NHS nurses could be affected.
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    on LBC now
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    About time they started training more nurses then. And paying more for staff retention.

    Oh I forgot. All the money was spent on MP pay rises. Oh dear....

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    Bruin used immigrants and tax credits to keep the wages down.

    as he said

    'No more Boom & Bust'
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    Quote Originally Posted by vetran View Post
    Bruin used immigrants and tax credits to keep the wages down.

    as he said

    'No more Boom & Bust'
    So if we undo that by sending the immigrants home and cutting tax credits, everything will be OK? Or is that not what you mean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by expat View Post
    So if we undo that by sending the immigrants home and cutting tax credits, everything will be OK? Or is that not what you mean?
    Well if we had trained more nurses rather than stealing them from overseas.
    If we had not put in tax credits and flooded the market with cheap labour the wages would be higher.

    Of course we could blame the Tories who have to fix it all and attack anyone who suggests they were obviously a bad idea then everything will be peachy.

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    Camerons lot cut training nurse training budgets when they came to power. Lo and behold a few years down the line we run short of nurses.

    From 2012
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/heal...of-nurses.html

    The NHS is heading for “disaster” because nursing training places are being cut even though record numbers of nurses are set to retire and the population is ageing, the Prime Minister has been told'
    La la la not listening. Hey Osborne send a few billion to the poor brown people overseas. Jolly good. Pip Pip.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flashman View Post
    Camerons lot cut training nurse training budgets when they came to power. Lo and behold a few years down the line we run short of nurses.

    From 2012
    NHS 'heading for disaster' over lack of nurses - Telegraph



    La la la not listening. Hey Osborne send a few billion to the poor brown people overseas. Jolly good. Pip Pip.
    when did Cameron join a Strategic Health Authority? I remember him ring fencing the NHS funds.

    But Prof Green said England’s 10 strategic health authorities (SHAs) were cutting training places to save money in the short term, an approach he described as being “divorced from reality”.
    Nope its not a government level decision.

    A Department of Health spokesman said: "The number of nurses per bed is increasing - on average, there are now two nurses to every bed in hospital. This is good news for patients.
    "The number of nurse training places needed varies across the country, so decisions about funding for places are made by the local NHS."

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    whilst NHS spending hasn't gone up as fast as inflation 'savage cuts' are hardly a great description.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vetran View Post
    Well if we had trained more nurses rather than stealing them from overseas.
    If we had not put in tax credits and flooded the market with cheap labour the wages would be higher.
    Well, I agree with you on both of those points: more training and higher wages; but somehow I struggle to imagine seeing the policies (and budget) that would be needed to bring them about.

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