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    #61
    Industry never learns. Since I've been in this game the whole offshoring thing rears its head with pendulous predictability. While on the one hand I think anyone that grows up in India, against the odds gets a first class education and can learn to speak a foreign language and have the gumption to get over here and earn deserves our respect, there are the odd few who give the ICT guys a bad name.

    The real problem comes from the likes of TCS, who will hire one local guy who knows what he's doing and then place a half dozen offshore bodies around him to try and soak up his knowledge without having to train their own staff. The smell of greed is overwhelming, the way they treat their staff is appalling.

    I find fault with the big consultancies, not the individuals.
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      #62
      SaaS is the next big thing they hope will replace a lot of people in IT, I think that is more of a threat than ICTs in the longterm
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        #63
        Not to mention that off-shoring often involve the bottom of the barrel people from the EE/Asia as lower cost is the main driving factor which even worsens the gap in skills.
        Agreed, we tend to see the worse of it via <Enter Large Offshore Provider Here>.
        In fact we had an instance last year where we were pretty sure the guy that remotely did the interview, was not the same guy we eventually got working for us offshore.

        It amazes me how people that never lived in EE/Asia brand the people there inferior, less educated and lower skilled, based on a stereotype and not much less.
        Having spent a lot of time in India and having lived in Bangkok I would agree with this in principle. However, in India the chain of command / caste system has a lot to answer for. There the management completely rule the roost, often insisting something be done in a sub optimal way.

        Near shoring brings its own problems, competition is high and the workforce is highly mobilised. People tend to treat perm more like contract moving every 6-12 months.
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          #64
          Originally posted by MicrosoftBob View Post
          SaaS is the next big thing they hope will replace a lot of people in IT, I think that is more of a threat than ICTs in the longterm
          It was meant to be five years ago but never happened. Never seen a SaaS carry out a successful pareto workshop or build a good working relationship with senior management.
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            #65
            Originally posted by MicrosoftBob View Post
            SaaS is the next big thing they hope will replace a lot of people in IT, I think that is more of a threat than ICTs in the longterm
            This is true only partially. SaaS only means that the work will be performed by SaaS provider instead of in-house team, but someone need to "man the guns" in any case. Yes automation is on the rise but so does the volume of data and the number of servers/services/applications each company uses. The average number of servers has probably increased ten fold since the virtualization boom not 10 years ago. Internet and e-mail is a must even for a kebab shop and the explosion of mobile devices as phones and tablets demands it's own infrastructure.

            There always have been unemployed people including IT bods and engineers, but it's mostly due to geographical distribution of jobs. And if someone from the north or Wales is unwilling to uproot or long-distance commute 300-400 miles to London/SE to get the job, the EE/Asian guy/gal will happily fly thousands of miles to take his place.

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