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Graduates, graduates, who will buy my lovely graduates?

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    #11
    Aside from the usual supply>demand effect, I would imagine graduates with 2:is or above from Russell group/top 20 unis in 'traditional', harder subjects (STEM and some arts and social sciences) will do fine. On the other hand, if you're functionally innumerate/illiterate even after a degree, not so much. IMO, it's not that degrees are necessarily a bad deal but more so that there is too much pressure on people who would derive limited benefit from a degree to get one, which over time has made them mandatory for a good many jobs. If you possess the aptitude for it, actually study and pick a good uni and degree it could still be a good option but less necessary these days with the amount of info online.

    This has been a bubble that has formed with the active encouragement of governments past and present, and of course overactive uni 'marketing' departments.
    Last edited by Zero Liability; 19 August 2015, 11:30.

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      #12
      Originally posted by vetran View Post
      lefties believe everyone should earn in the top 5% (excluding MP's of course who should earn much more) as many n the top 5% have degrees we need more people with degrees
      No.

      But I do thing a doctor should be able to afford a decent house, and that is not possible for a med grad today.
      http://www.cih.org/news-article/disp...housing_market

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        #13
        Originally posted by PurpleGorilla View Post
        No.

        But I do thing a doctor should be able to afford a decent house, and that is not possible for a med grad today.
        Build more houses, have fewer people wanting them.
        Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.

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          #14
          Originally posted by PurpleGorilla View Post
          No.

          But I do thing a doctor should be able to afford a decent house, and that is not possible for a med grad today.
          It is after said "Med Grad" has actually been delivering Medical Services for a while. If a Med Grad expects to own a house the minute he troops out of Uni with his ears still wet then he is as deluded as you are. Which is saying something.

          “The period of the disintegration of the European Union has begun. And the first vessel to have departed is Britain”

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            #15
            Originally posted by vetran View Post
            Build more houses, have fewer people wanting them.
            Or don't allow companies/foreigners to own houses.

            And rental income subject to 100% tax rate.

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              #16
              Always called centre politicians but Blair's mob, mainly Brown, caused enormous adverse effects with socialist polices and not just the absurd idea that higher education was a right, regardless of whether or not it benefited society or the individuals involved. The huge damage to the private pension system and to British haulage companies by high taxation are two others that spring to mind.
              bloggoth

              If everything isn't black and white, I say, 'Why the hell not?'
              John Wayne (My guru, not to be confused with my beloved prophet Jeremy Clarkson)

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                #17
                Originally posted by zeitghost
                Ah yes.

                Brownstuff destroyed the pension system with dividend fiddling & Osbourne has set it in stone just to make sure.
                Badger Lamont started the pension damage with the advanced ACT thing.

                It was all fine under Maggie.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by BrilloPad View Post
                  Or don't allow companies/foreigners to own houses.

                  And rental income subject to 100% tax rate.

                  who is going to rent bedsits to the divorced men?
                  Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by PurpleGorilla View Post
                    No.

                    But I do thing a doctor should be able to afford a decent house, and that is not possible for a med grad today.
                    Doctors are some of the wealthiest people in UK society, even before the last Labour government stuffed their mouths with gold. I agree that they should be able to afford (the mortgage on) a decent house, after a few years of work. Many of them can afford this, together with a brand new Aston Martin every year. The BMA sees to that. All without working any overtime or out of hours (as they had to before Labour).

                    It is normal for a new grad in any subject to rent for many years before buying.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by unixman View Post

                      It is normal for a new grad in any subject to rent for many years before buying.
                      Except for doctors.

                      Until 2007 they could come out of uni and buy a flat in London.

                      Most of them didn't want to as they needed to be able to move around for their training jobs.
                      "You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JR

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