Trump - Ban all Muslims

[DaveB]

Yes, point being, maybe go out and actually talk to some, instead of letting the Sun make up your mind for you.
The people that rely on such trite rubbish, clearly, have never integrated with different nationalities at all.

Or even read a different paper.

15 things I learned about Islam and British values as a gay boy living opposite a mosque | Voices | The Independent

[d000hg]

My wife was born in Carrickfergus, Northern Ireland and is Catholic. I warn people that if she leaves the room and doesn't take her handbag they should run. She stopped finding it funny quite a while ago.

I imagine so did everyone else. When was the last IRA bombing?

[GlenW]

Or even read a different paper.

15 things I learned about Islam and British values as a gay boy living opposite a mosque | Voices | The Independent

+1 Sheer class!

[GlenW]

I imagine so did everyone else. When was the last IRA bombing?

According to Wikipedia:

"2 November 2014: A PSNI armoured jeep was hit by a horizontal mortar in the Creggan area of Derry. A rear door was blown off and a passing car was damaged, but there were no injuries. The RIRA said it had fired an "EFP mortar-style device triggered by a command wire".[208] In the security operation that followed, youths attacked the PSNI with stones and petrol bombs"

[Dactylion]

he is a Fwitt however he may well be the next US president.

Since when has being a Fuqwit, or not being a Fuqwit, been in the selection criteria for US Pres?

Isn't it pretty well be born in America and not be in prison?

[NickFitz]

Boris chimes in: "Crime has been falling steadily both in London and in New York - the only reason I wouldn't go to some parts of New York is the real risk of meeting Donald Trump."

[LucidDementia]

Isn't it pretty well be born in America and not be in prison?

The "born in America" bit is open to debate.

[original PM]

as is the going to prison given that the US justice system seems to be based on who can buy the most expensive lawyer

[SpontaneousOrder]

Maybe not - although perhaps going back generations it was always the case that the "new" immigrants could be viewed the same way and yet ended up being integrated and vital to the nation.

The wider point is that the US is founded on the basis of immigration and has always done quite well as a melting pot of cultures and nationalities. This is one of the things which has led to its success.

Agreed. That's the real shame of welfare and restrictions on freedom of association.
If the US can go back to it's principles it could be the greatest country on earth again.
Welfare, aspects of socialism & anti-discrimination laws will only lead to further entrenched xenophobia and things that look like xenophobia.

[SueEllen]

Agreed. That's the real shame of welfare and restrictions on freedom of association.
If the US can go back to it's principles it could be the greatest country on earth again.
Welfare, aspects of socialism & anti-discrimination laws will only lead to further entrenched xenophobia and things that look like xenophobia.

What crap are you talking about?

Welfare gives you the state pension e.g. a minimum income to survive on when you are unable to work due to age.

If it wasn't for "aspects of socialism" as you call it you would have state eduction, a police service, an army or an NHS.

Anti-discrimination laws are to remind public bodies and businesses of their obligations to treat people as fairly as possible.

Hate speech laws are to used to stop inciting other people do violent things to minorities in society whether they have a disability or follow a different religion.

All societies need rules to govern them as without it you would get anarchy. Though some people think anarchy is a good thing....