Terror attack in Nice, 30 dead

[Paddy]

Indeed. And often the online ranters are less likely to do anything in real life as they have a vent.

At the moment it seems the French are struggling to prove he was part of IS.

He was a total fruit cake though.

The first reaction from the muslim community is always that the perpetrator acted on his own and he was not a real muslim. Mohamed Lahouaiej worked as a delivery driver and lived in a virtual squat however, he managed to send 100,000 euros to relatives in Tunisia a couple of days before the attack. Obviously he did not act alone.

All terrorists are mentally disturbed, and therefore it is easy to follow the words in the Koran without question.

Quran (9:5) - "So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them.”

Quran (2:191-193) - "And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out.”

Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall we cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority".

The problems can only be resolved by the moderate muslims but they are unwilling to question the word of Allah.

[SueEllen]

The first reaction from the muslim community is always that the perpetrator acted on his own and he was not a real muslim. Mohamed Lahouaiej worked as a delivery driver and lived in a virtual squat however, he managed to send 100,000 euros to relatives in Tunisia a couple of days before the attack. Obviously he did not act alone.

Which Muslim "community" are you talking about?

Unlike Catholicism, but like Protestantism, Islam has many sects and denominations. Therefore 3 individuals of the same gender who live in the same building can believe completely different things, go to completely different Mosques and never socialise together. So how are they the same community?

One neighbour said not only was he unfriendly and refuse to talk to her but he drank alcohol, and another person stated he smoked during Ramadan. Why would you presume someone like that is a practising Muslim when they are openly doing things that go against Islamic practises? Also does it mean that neighbours who don't want to talk to you in a city are all terrorists?

[NotAllThere]

... Therefore 3 individuals of the same gender who live in the same building can believe completely different things, go to completely different Mosques and never socialise together...

Or even go to the same mosque. They like to think they're better than Christians in that they don't have denominations. Fact is, is one mosque there can be fifteen or more different denominations - depends who's interpretation of the Koran they follow.

[minestrone]

I believe a lot of quotes that get used from the Koran in discussions like these are historical accounts rather than religious doctrine, the second one certainly is.

[Paddy]

I believe a lot of quotes that get used from the Koran in discussions like these are historical accounts rather than religious doctrine, the second one certainly is.

No, regardless of sect, they all agree it is the word of God.

God Allah - Can We Prove Quran is from God?

[minestrone]

No, regardless of sect, they all agree it is the word of God.

God Allah - Can We Prove Quran is from God?

Yes, I understand they think it is the word of God but it is not doctrine. Do you understand the difference?

[NotAllThere]

Yes, I understand they think it is the word of God but it is not doctrine. Do you understand the difference?

Maybe I can help the hard-of-thinking. The Koran contains doctrine and historical accounts. Some of the texts quoted are from historical accounts - i.e. so perhaps quoting what Mohammed said in one particular instance in one particular context, rather than a "Thou shalt kill" kind of thing.

Of course, it depends on which version of the Koran... and there is more than one, although most Muslims will deny it.

[Churchill]

Maybe I can help the hard-of-thinking. The Koran contains doctrine and historical accounts. Some of the texts quoted are from historical accounts - i.e. so perhaps quoting what Mohammed said in one particular instance in one particular context, rather than a "Thou shalt kill" kind of thing.

Of course, it depends on which version of the Koran... and there is more than one, although most Muslims will deny it.

So your answer although you believe it to be definitive, is merely obfuscation.

Maybe you should've kept your mouth shut lest you confirm your ignorance.

[NotAllThere]

...Maybe you should've kept your mouth shut lest you confirm your ignorance.

Luke 6:45. But in your case, "types the fingers".

[Churchill]

Luke 6:45. But in your case, "types the fingers".

John 8:7
Matthew 7:1
Romans 2:1

Bloody hell, this is like chess!

Just because I'm not a Christian it doesn't mean that I haven't read your comic.