Originally posted by SueEllen
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Completely OT - elderly parents etc
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Originally posted by psychocandy View PostBrother has been with him once but generally Dad wont allow it.
Sometimes they treat OAPs like children and need to be told to address the patient."You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JRComment
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Originally posted by SueEllen View PostDid your dad say it helped? Or where the doctors ruder?
Sometimes they treat OAPs like children and need to be told to address the patient.
Then they shovel the problem along by calling an ambulance to take him to hospital (and they send him home again). The hospital then arrange further outpatient tests just to shut him up or just in case there is something wrong.
All of which, in his mind, because the doctor has said they haven't found anything yet, hes been ill enough to get "rushed" to hospital (although he waited 6 hours once for the ambulance quite rightly), and they're doing furhter tests, validates it all for him. He thinks hes got something serious wrong with him.
No-one on the medical side has taken any notice of his behaviour pattern or how he is completely ignoring all advice he gets given.Rhyddid i lofnod psychocandy!!!!Comment
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Originally posted by psychocandy View PostTo be honest, it sounds like the doctors aren't being straight enough with him. They keep telling him "can't find anything" rather than "theres not a lot wrong with you".
Then they shovel the problem along by calling an ambulance to take him to hospital (and they send him home again). The hospital then arrange further outpatient tests just to shut him up or just in case there is something wrong.
All of which, in his mind, because the doctor has said they haven't found anything yet, hes been ill enough to get "rushed" to hospital (although he waited 6 hours once for the ambulance quite rightly), and they're doing furhter tests, validates it all for him. He thinks hes got something serious wrong with him.
No-one on the medical side has taken any notice of his behaviour pattern or how he is completely ignoring all advice he gets given.
I think the best advice given so far is from NLyUK in encouraging him to be more social as he will be too busy to wait 6 hours for an ambulance unless it is scheduled in."You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JRComment
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Originally posted by SueEllen View PostThe doctors can't say "theres not a lot wrong with you" due to his age as if he dropped down dead you guys could complain. It's the same reason they are doing all the test. As he also has his marbles then it's up to him whether he ignores their advice.
I think the best advice given so far is from NLyUK in encouraging him to be more social as he will be too busy to wait 6 hours for an ambulance unless it is scheduled in.
Its just after 10-15 times I would have hoped that someone would look at the overall picture.
After all eventually, both the GP and ambulance service are going to mark him down as a timewaster and then not come out when he really is desperately ill.Rhyddid i lofnod psychocandy!!!!Comment
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He is obviously reluctant to engage, but the hospital doctors who manage an acute attendance / admissions are not going to be much help and neither will a GP unless very dedicated. You need the community geriatrics / care of the elderly team, either a nurse of community geriatrics consultant. Sill need cooperation from Dad of course. Help the Aged may be well placed to advise on all local health and other services.Comment
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Originally posted by psychocandy View PostHes absolutely convinced that there is something seriously wrong with him.
You could go on to some of the medical forums such as patient.info, get him to describe his symptoms, and ask for their (non-professional) opinions - they might just come up with a gem of an idea, or two.
Ultimately though if your father has a mental disorder, such as OCD, as I think is the case here, and he is refusing treatment, doctors can have the power to have him sectioned for treatment of that condition. Probably with antidepressants and/or antipsychotics.
I would though think that a last option rather than a first option.
Keep us informed of his progress.Comment
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Originally posted by GJABS View PostHas he said specifically what symptoms he has that lead him to believe that he has something seriously wrong with him? After all, it is just possible that there is indeed something bad wrong with him, but that the doctors etc have missed it. Feel free to describe them here (or not if you don't want to share such personal information).
You could go on to some of the medical forums such as patient.info, get him to describe his symptoms, and ask for their (non-professional) opinions - they might just come up with a gem of an idea, or two.
Ultimately though if your father has a mental disorder, such as OCD, as I think is the case here, and he is refusing treatment, doctors can have the power to have him sectioned for treatment of that condition. Probably with antidepressants and/or antipsychotics.
I would though think that a last option rather than a first option.
Keep us informed of his progress.
He had a cough which is getting better but is lingering a bit. He forgets its getting better and focuses on that. Also, in his head, there is no such thing as wait and it'll get better.
Hes had chest x-rays, ecg, scans etc etc.
His other symtoms seem to be mainly made-up/result of panic attacks such as feel diizzy, can't breathe.
For some reason he also goes through phases of saying he cant eat. But he is eating and forgets that. Hes convinced also hes lost tons of wieght and is weak - hes not he was overweight to start with.
Social services have sent in a carer every morning now which seems to have helped. That 30 mins of someone fussing over him seems to make a world of difference.
I've told him though phone me if you're concerned/feel ill. BUT he refuses to phone me when Im in work "dont want to get you into trouble". Jeez. An example of how he just does not listen to what I say at all.Rhyddid i lofnod psychocandy!!!!Comment
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Social services have sent in a carer every morning now which seems to have helped. That 30 mins of someone fussing over him seems to make a world of difference.
I've told him though phone me if you're concerned/feel ill. BUT he refuses to phone me when Im in work "dont want to get you into trouble". Jeez. An example of how he just does not listen to what I say at all.[/QUOTE]
He sounds lonely to me; and he genuinely may feel you're paying lip service to the offer of being on the end of the phone. He's of a completely different generation and I often think that colours a lot of interactions.
Does he live far away from you?Practically perfect in every way....there's a time and (more importantly) a place for malarkey.
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Originally posted by psychocandy View Post
Social services have sent in a carer every morning now which seems to have helped. That 30 mins of someone fussing over him seems to make a world of difference.
I've told him though phone me if you're concerned/feel ill. BUT he refuses to phone me when Im in work "dont want to get you into trouble". Jeez. An example of how he just does not listen to what I say at all."You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JRComment
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