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    Former soldiers to be prosecuted for IRA man's murder - BBC News

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    I am very dubious about pursuing these old cases, when concrete evidence has disappeared, when defence witnesses may no longer be available, when memories have become hazy, when those making the accusations are hostile and have an interest in smearing our army, when there is money to be made by accusers and their lawyers. Soldiers should abide by international laws but if they did indeed flout them, why could that not be proven at the time?

    I am afraid if we carry on like this, nobody in our armed forces will be willing to fire a bullet unless they have written authority to do so, signed in triplicate. It's the only way they are going to avoid being worried for the next 50 years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xoggoth View Post
    I am very dubious about pursuing these old cases, when concrete evidence has disappeared, when defence witnesses may no longer be available, when memories have become hazy, when those making the accusations are hostile and have an interest in smearing our army, when there is money to be made by accusers and their lawyers. Soldiers should abide by international laws but if they did indeed flout them, why could that not be proven at the time?

    I am afraid if we carry on like this, nobody in our armed forces will be willing to fire a bullet unless they have written authority to do so, signed in triplicate. It's the only way they are going to avoid being worried for the next 50 years.
    Well said, I would add, money would be better spent prosecuting rogue bankers
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    Quote Originally Posted by xoggoth View Post
    I am very dubious about pursuing these old cases, when concrete evidence has disappeared, when defence witnesses may no longer be available, when memories have become hazy, when those making the accusations are hostile and have an interest in smearing our army, when there is money to be made by accusers and their lawyers. Soldiers should abide by international laws but if they did indeed flout them, why could that not be proven at the time?

    I am afraid if we carry on like this, nobody in our armed forces will be willing to fire a bullet unless they have written authority to do so, signed in triplicate. It's the only way they are going to avoid being worried for the next 50 years.
    I am more concerned about double standards. After Easter 97 I thought that old cases would not be dragged up to allow peace? It should be the same for both sides.

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    As a former British Army soldier, I am becoming increasingly worried that lawyers representing Figure 11 targets (such as that depicted in the photo) may pursue me for damages to said wooden targets.
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    I am more concerned about double standards
    Good point. Sometimes it is unfortunately necessary to make an accord with revolutionaries, terrorists, dictators, etc. to prevent even more deaths. Absurd we should not prosecute them and still pursue our own forces for less premeditated acts.

    Another factor is the nature of war. When most of us make mistakes in our jobs the consequences are pretty minor. Being a soldier in a conflict is much harder. Suppose you round a corner in an area of armed rebels and see someone hiding behind a bush. Is it an armed enemy about to shoot you or an innocent civilian? You have just moments to make the decision whether to fire or not. Not easy.
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