NATO - you can't have your cake and eat it.

[PurpleGorilla]

Brexit

We are leaving

[greenlake]

NATO - you can't have your cake and eat it.

Sure you can....

[b r]

You also need to examine what is actual in the spend, as AFAIK the US include their Veterans costs (which is greater than our actual MOD spend), so you could argue that lots of the USA expense is actually included in general budgets elsewhere - plus they've vast expenses in (hidden-ish) procurement where it's actually for other reasons.

USA Veterans $78.4bn
UK MOD £35bn

[shaunbhoy]

You also need to examine what is actual in the spend, as AFAIK the US include their Veterans costs (which is greater than our actual MOD spend), so you could argue that lots of the USA expense is actually included in general budgets elsewhere - plus they've vast expenses in (hidden-ish) procurement where it's actually for other reasons.

USA Veterans $78.4bn
UK MOD £35bn

What a load of bollox. If, like the French and Germans, you never put your head above the parapet, then you never GET any veterans.
Yet despite this their contributions are feeble in the extreme.

I don't blame the Yanks in the least for questioning some countries' commitment.

[PurpleGorilla]

You also need to examine what is actual in the spend, as AFAIK the US include their Veterans costs (which is greater than our actual MOD spend), so you could argue that lots of the USA expense is actually included in general budgets elsewhere - plus they've vast expenses in (hidden-ish) procurement where it's actually for other reasons.

USA Veterans $78.4bn
UK MOD £35bn

Lol the USA is dripping in tech and capability, aircraft carriers, stealth bombers, cruise missiles, ICBMs, VTOL. It's self evident their spending is legit.