NATO - you can't have your cake and eat it. NATO - you can't have your cake and eat it.
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    Default NATO - you can't have your cake and eat it.

    Protection comes with obligations. No cherry picking...

    "The US vice-president has delivered the most uncompromising message yet from the Trump administration to Nato allies that they have to step up financial contributions towards defence spending.

    On his first visit to Europe since taking office, Mike Pence said “some of our largest allies do not have a credible path” towards paying their share of Nato’s financial burden. Although he did not name individual countries, his targets included Germany, France and Italy. “The time has come to do more,” he said."

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    Belgium and Luxemberg again, founding EU members getting more than they put in. Easy to be wealthy when you get others to pay for everything.

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    Moved to General - watch where you're posting PurpleGorilla!
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    Germany should be spending at least 10% of GDP on "defence". Or Der Attack as they say in the farterland.

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    Who needs NATO anymore? Maybe the, nearly 2% of GDP, that the UK put in could be diverted to the NHS Actually with the rise of the populist right wing which is in turn in thrall and funded by the Putin regime maybe it will be disbanded once your idols of Wilders, Le Pen, Farage, et. al. get into power
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    Quote Originally Posted by darmstadt View Post
    Who needs NATO anymore?
    Anyone with a land border with Russia?

    OK, not China ( well not directly anyway)

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    Quote Originally Posted by RSoles View Post
    Anyone with a land border with Russia?

    OK, not China ( well not directly anyway)
    So not the USA then?
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    Well this is going to play into Brussels and Russia's hands.

    The EU wanted an EU army.
    US won't pay for NATO unless others do
    UK Brexits
    EU states they don't need the U.S. and so will setup an EU army
    Germany pays and says it needs to rearm properly and needs nukes to be on equal footing
    U.S. pulls out of NATO
    Russia starts to test the waters
    US is back in isolation or worst Trump is a Russian Stooge
    Russia and Germany nuke each other
    Russia being large nukes everyone
    US does nothing
    Putin becomes President of US as Trump is really his brother
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    Quote Originally Posted by darmstadt View Post
    Who needs NATO anymore? Maybe the, nearly 2% of GDP, that the UK put in could be diverted to the NHS Actually with the rise of the populist right wing which is in turn in thrall and funded by the Putin regime maybe it will be disbanded once your idols of Wilders, Le Pen, Farage, et. al. get into power
    We are stronger together but if you want to be in the club you need to meet your obligations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarillionFan View Post
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    After you it could only get better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PurpleGorilla View Post
    We are stronger together but if you want to be in the club you need to meet your obligations.
    Brexit
    Brexit is having a wee in the middle of the room at a house party because nobody is talking to you, and then complaining about the smell.

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