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Bloomin hell that's higher than I thought
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Originally posted by vetran View PostOK so 90% of Migrants are either independently wealthy in their own country, not from a war zone or seriously in debt to criminals?
Yeah that is going to end well.
Sorry I actually thought some of them were vaguely honest. Now I want them here even less.
Many of them have been saving for years and/or selling all of their possessions/property to pay the couple of $1000s to the traffickers, this doesn't make them wealthy.
And hope you understand that "enslaving" people after their trafficking across the border until they pay-off their "debt" is modus operandi for these gangs.Comment
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Originally posted by LondonManc View PostIndependently wealthy? Not at all. The whole family scrimp and save to get someone smuggled in so that they can work and send money home. You're very green for a vetran....
Afghanistan average yearly wage - US$ 274 - well.
Irag might have a chance US$ 15,258.
Apparently they promise the future earnings of the migrant to pay off the debt or the sister ends up in a Brothel.
sick yes, green no.Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.Comment
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Originally posted by LondonManc View PostYou're very green for a vetran....
My wife's family fled Vietnam in the late 70s, due to being the wrong ethnicity. They had to bribe the police to be able to leave in peace, and they had to pay a smuggling operation to get them to Hong Kong. Thank-you for labelling them criminals.
Originally posted by vetran View PostApparently they promise the future earnings of the migrant to pay off the debt or the sister ends up in a Brothel.Down with racism. Long live miscegenation!Comment
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Originally posted by sal View PostSo by your logic they can't be from a war zone if they are using traffickers?
Many of them have been saving for years and/or selling all of their possessions/property to pay the couple of $1000s to the traffickers, this doesn't make them wealthy.
And hope you understand that "enslaving" people after their trafficking across the border until they pay-off their "debt" is modus operandi for these gangs.
as above most of them would need to be pretty wealthy to afford even $2000 given the average wage.Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.Comment
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Originally posted by vetran View Postthe point is by giving the migrants access we are encouraging this trade.`
most of them would need to be pretty wealthy to afford even $2000 given the average wage.Down with racism. Long live miscegenation!Comment
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Originally posted by vetran View Postthe point is by giving the migrants access we are encouraging this trade.
as above most of them would need to be pretty wealthy to afford even $2000 given the average wage.
Gold jewelry is quite popular in the middle east, in many cases the migrants are selling family heirlooms to raise the money. Also in many cases whole families are pooling their finances to get a couple of family members across with the hope that they will be able to earn enough to send back home and get the rest ofthe family out.
In any case wealth shouldn't matter in case of war refugees.
Using "Discouraging human trafficking" as an excuse to close down borders is laughable.Comment
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Originally posted by NotAllThere View PostBut what an upright citizen! If he was in a war zone, Luton or some other troubled place, he'd never buy on the black-market, never associate with a criminal gang in order to try to get someone where better and never indulge in those little practices that some people feel forced to in order for them and their loved ones to survive.
My wife's family fled Vietnam in the late 70s, due to being the wrong ethnicity. They had to bribe the police to be able to leave in peace, and they had to pay a smuggling operation to get them to Hong Kong. Thank-you for labelling them criminals.
What do you care if she ends up in a brothel. She's part of the criminal class, so why not?The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world that he didn't existComment
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Originally posted by NotAllThere View PostBut what an upright citizen! If he was in a war zone, Luton or some other troubled place, he'd never buy on the black-market, never associate with a criminal gang in order to try to get someone where better and never indulge in those little practices that some people feel forced to because of their dire straits - or their kids are hungry.
Your user name is prophetic some times.Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.Comment
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Originally posted by sal View PostSo stop accepting refugees and let them get killed in the war zone. After all most of the migrants claim to be refugees, not economic migrants (I'm sure that is not the case but it's besides the point).
Gold jewelry is quite popular in the middle east, in many cases the migrants are selling family heirlooms to raise the money. Also in many cases whole families are pooling their finances to get a couple of family members across with the hope that they will be able to earn enough to send back home and get the rest ofthe family out.
In any case wealth shouldn't matter in case of war refugees.
Using "Discouraging human trafficking" as an excuse to close down borders is laughable.Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.Comment
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