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    Quote Originally Posted by vetran View Post
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    Overstaying
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    we can get our heads round them fine, its the loons that suggest that anyone who doesn't like illegal immigration or working is racist that gets on my nerves.
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    Had a similar raid on a nail bar in my local town about 3 years ago. Arrests made for illegal migrants and cannabis. Regardless of whether one is pro or anti immigration, it is surely quite right for any state to ensure that only those legally entitled to stay should do so.

    Even when they are here legally, one has to question how those who work in a plethora of low skill businesses like nail bars, car washes, fast food shops, leaflet distribution, etc. are any benefit to the rest of us. Any increase in national wealth is just divided among a similarly increased number of people. Basic maths - you don't raise an average by adding more of average quality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vetran View Post
    we can get our heads round them fine, its the loons that suggest that anyone who doesn't like illegal immigration or working is racist that gets on my nerves.
    Does anyone suggest that anyone who doesn't like illegal immigration is racist? Maybe they do, probably in the US they do. Not sure about here.

    The accusations of racism tends to be towards those that don't like legal immigration. Which isn't entirely fair, but then sometimes the same people that say it's just about numbers one minute and moan about being tarred with the racist brush will be declaring that Mälmo is the rape capital of the world due to all the muslims the next.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VectraMan View Post
    Does anyone suggest that anyone who doesn't like illegal immigration is racist? Maybe they do, probably in the US they do. Not sure about here.

    The accusations of racism tends to be towards those that don't like legal immigration. Which isn't entirely fair, but then sometimes the same people that say it's just about numbers one minute and moan about being tarred with the racist brush will be declaring that Mälmo is the rape capital of the world due to all the muslims the next.
    yeah that would be bad

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/302274...tistics-u-turn

    'IT WAS WRONG OF ME' Swedish minister apologises for FALSELY claiming sex attacks are decreasing in the country after Nigel Farage branded Malmo ‘the rape capital of Europe’

    note : If they applied for a Visa and breach the conditions by working the Visa is invalid they are no longer legal migrants.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...-announce.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by xoggoth View Post
    Had a similar raid on a nail bar in my local town about 3 years ago. Arrests made for illegal migrants and cannabis. Regardless of whether one is pro or anti immigration, it is surely quite right for any state to ensure that only those legally entitled to stay should do so.

    Even when they are here legally, one has to question how those who work in a plethora of low skill businesses like nail bars, car washes, fast food shops, leaflet distribution, etc. are any benefit to the rest of us. Any increase in national wealth is just divided among a similarly increased number of people. Basic maths - you don't raise an average by adding more of average quality.
    indeed as few earning below higher rate actually contribute to the country (i.e. put in more than they take out according to the ONS). Adding average earners makes the situation worse. As the nail bar staff are unlikely to get anyway near average earnings or paying significant tax they are effectively taking out.
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