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Brexit DOOM™: Parts of UK that voted for Brexit may be hardest hit

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    #11
    Originally posted by vetran View Post
    yeah but the EU Reich won't last a thousand years.
    The UK Reich probably won't even make it until 2020.

    I'm alright Jack

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      #12
      " So now the hard Brexiters say, with astonishingly cynical mendacity, that Britain would be better off going it alone. This approach plays fast and loose with ordinary people’s livelihoods. Yet still, with jingoistic horns and trumpets drowning out the roar of the deep, the stampede towards the cliff’s edge gathers pace."



      https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...ralleled-peace
      "Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience". Mark Twain

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        #13
        Originally posted by scooterscot View Post
        " So now the hard Brexiters say, with astonishingly cynical mendacity, that Britain would be better off going it alone. This approach plays fast and loose with ordinary people’s livelihoods. Yet still, with jingoistic horns and trumpets drowning out the roar of the deep, the stampede towards the cliff’s edge gathers pace."

        I thought you were a Europhiliac. If so then why the cynical suicide glyph?

        Unless you really believe all that melodramatic Guardian claptrap and think the UK is committing economic suicide.
        Work in the public sector? Read the IR35 FAQ here

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          #14
          Originally posted by scooterscot View Post
          " So now the hard Brexiters say, with astonishingly cynical mendacity, that Britain would be better off going it alone. This approach plays fast and loose with ordinary people’s livelihoods. Yet still, with jingoistic horns and trumpets drowning out the roar of the deep, the stampede towards the cliff’s edge gathers pace."



          https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...ralleled-peace
          excellent piece. I like this bit:

          Barnier’s stance, if unchanged, presages a negotiations humiliation for the government. Yet more threatening for the ultra-hard Brexit brigade and the lie factories of Fleet Street was Barnier’s vow to spell out what leaving the EU really entails for the British people. “We need to tell the truth and we will tell the truth to our citizens about what Brexit means,” Barnier said, his point being that, until now, here and elsewhere, such truths have been deliberately concealed, ignored or distorted. How galling, and how ironic, that the country, the “mother of parliaments” that boastfully styles itself the home of modern representative governance, should need a lesson in open democracy. But needed it is. Truth and common sense are in short supply as Britain charges towards the precipice.
          Trump is getting a lesson in democracy from his own party, lets see what happens in the UK. It will start to get very interesting. I'm reminded of that Rolling Stones song, "you can't always get what you want".

          Last edited by BlasterBates; 27 March 2017, 15:36.
          I'm alright Jack

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            #15
            Originally posted by OwlHoot View Post
            I thought you were a Europhiliac. If so then why the cynical suicide glyph?
            How can you not feel suicidal about the whole situation? Unelected mother Mayhem denies an elected MSP from executing her mandate upon which she was elected? Altruism was never better defined.
            "Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience". Mark Twain

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              #16
              Originally posted by OwlHoot View Post
              I thought you were a Europhiliac. If so then why the cynical suicide glyph?

              Unless you really believe all that melodramatic Guardian claptrap and think the UK is committing economic suicide.
              But if even Leave campaigners were saying that only a madman would actually leave the single market, it doesn't seem so melodramatic.

              Daniel Hannan: “Absolutely nobody is talking about threatening our place in the Single Market“

              Nigel Farage: “Wouldn’t it be terrible if we were like Norway and Switzerland? Really?“

              Daniel Hannan: “Outstandingly Norway.“

              Nigel Farage: “They’re rich.“

              Owen Paterson: “Because only a madman would actually leave the Single Market.“

              Nigel Farage: “They’re happy.“

              Luke Johnson: “We have a great independent future just as countries like Norway and Switzerland enjoy.“

              Nigel Farage: “They’re self-governing.“

              Daniel Hannan: “Norway, Switzerland, all these countries have complete free trade within the EU, and by the way I can’t help noticing that they’re doing pretty well.“

              Nigel Farage: “And people say, ‘well actually, Norway, Iceland and Switzerland do pretty well.’“

              Matthew Elliott: “The Norwegian option, the EEA option, I think that it might be initially attractive. Some business people.“

              Nigel Farage: “You know, the Norwegians have no ties in terms of foreign policy with the European Union, no ties in terms of their fishing industry where they have a 200 mile limit. They are opted out and exempted from all the things that really make the British mad.“

              Arron Banks: “Increasingly the Norway option looks the best for the UK.“

              Nigel Farage: “We’ll find ourselves part of their European Economic Area, and with a free trade deal.“

              Daniel Hannan: “But, to repeat, absolutely nobody is talking about threatening our place in the Single Market.”
              http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/a546...d-f867ba394b09

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                #17
                Originally posted by BlasterBates View Post
                Trump is getting a lesson in democracy from his own party, lets see what happens in the UK. It will start to get very interesting. I'm reminded of that Rolling Stones song, "you can't always get what you want".
                In US the President can't "whip" votes from "his own" party ... Tories want out regardless the cost to poor sods who voted for them. Korbyn is happy for Tories to hung themselves.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by northernladyuk View Post
                  But if even Leave campaigners were saying that only a madman would actually leave the single market, it doesn't seem so melodramatic.



                  http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/a546...d-f867ba394b09
                  The Swiss and Norwegians never joined so how could they leave? Welcome to the hotel California...

                  Yup, both nearly debt free countries who pay a substantial amount to trade with the EU whilst having to agree to free movement. Looking forward to see how that rUK is going to sidestep those prerequisites.
                  "Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience". Mark Twain

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by scooterscot View Post
                    " So now the hard Brexiters say, with astonishingly cynical mendacity, that Britain would be better off going it alone. This approach plays fast and loose with ordinary people’s livelihoods. Yet still, with jingoistic horns and trumpets drowning out the roar of the deep, the stampede towards the cliff’s edge gathers pace."



                    https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...ralleled-peace
                    They are not using the word jingoistic ironically are they?

                    Unbelievable Jeff

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                      #20
                      Barnier’s stance, if unchanged,

                      Here is the nub of the argument. His stance WILL be changed, so there we have it.

                      He is just another "wind and piss" europhile that is about to get a short sharp wake-up call.

                      The French don't call him "Le cretin des Alpes" for nothing you know.


                      “The period of the disintegration of the European Union has begun. And the first vessel to have departed is Britain”

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