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Voters to have final say on brexit

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    #11
    Originally posted by PurpleGorilla View Post
    Hmm I personally would welcome an opportunity to address the division via a second ref. but I've made my bed and happy to lie in it.
    Where is your sense of fun?

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      #12
      Originally posted by northernladyuk View Post
      Where is your sense of fun?
      Fun or schadenfreude?
      http://www.cih.org/news-article/disp...housing_market

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        #13
        I think NLUK has picked up the German sense of humour. You know - invading Poland, but only as a joke...
        Down with racism. Long live miscegenation!

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          #14
          Originally posted by northernladyuk View Post
          Out of interest, if it is agreed that Article 50 is reversible, what is the objection to giving the UK electorate a referendum to choose between leaving on known terms and remaining?
          Because the only way to get a "good deal" in any negotiation is if both sides believe that the other side has a credible alternative.

          Which is why the UK says : Well if we don't get a deal, we'll just go to WTO, and we won't be asking for permission from anybody.

          And the EU says : Well we have four principles, Freedom of movement of people, capital, goods & services, which we won't compromise.

          If the EU believed that the UK population could reject the agreed deal then they could deliberately hand out a tulip deal and hope it was rejected in a second referendum.

          .... of course the problem with this approach is that there is potential for both sides ending up with a crap deal.

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            #15
            Originally posted by OwlHoot View Post
            An article by Tim Farron, a Liberal Democrat, in the Guardian.
            I decided to read it anyway. Made me laugh. Take this one "travellers having to pay a fee to travel to continental Europe". Of course, travellers from Europe would pay no fee to visit the UK. And it would be the Southern EU states which rely on tourism who would suffer.

            5 minutes of my life I will never get back. I could have had a in that time.

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              #16
              Originally posted by BrilloPad View Post
              I decided to read it anyway. Made me laugh. Take this one "travellers having to pay a fee to travel to continental Europe". Of course, travellers from Europe would pay no fee to visit the UK. And it would be the Southern EU states which rely on tourism who would suffer.

              5 minutes of my life I will never get back. I could have had a in that time.
              I didn't even read haha just the title I liked.

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                #17
                Originally posted by PurpleGorilla View Post

                FWIW, given the division out there, maybe we should have a second ref.
                Why? In what way could a second divisive referendum possibly help matters?
                “The period of the disintegration of the European Union has begun. And the first vessel to have departed is Britain”

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by shaunbhoy View Post
                  Why? In what way could a second divisive referendum possibly help matters?
                  Because then people vote on two knowns;

                  EU membership

                  Brexit deal
                  http://www.cih.org/news-article/disp...housing_market

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by PurpleGorilla View Post
                    Because then people vote on two knowns;

                    EU membership

                    Brexit deal
                    But by the time that would take place it would be too late. It would be like arguing over which bus we missed.

                    “The period of the disintegration of the European Union has begun. And the first vessel to have departed is Britain”

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by shaunbhoy View Post
                      But by the time that would take place it would be too late. It would be like arguing over which bus we missed.

                      I'm not so sure, I think there will be a moment where the genie might go back in the lamp.
                      http://www.cih.org/news-article/disp...housing_market

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