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    Quote Originally Posted by northernladyuk View Post
    If it's a Muslim acting on their own. it's a terrorist. If it's a white racist, it's a lone wolf.
    I thought mentioning the M word was an instant ...?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PurpleGorilla View Post
    I thought mentioning the M word was an instant ...?
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    Quote Originally Posted by zeitghost View Post
    I think he had a point
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    So in February, Trump talks about an attack in Sweden. Then it happens in April... Maybe he was looking at the wrong page of his calendar.

    The number of people prepared to drive trucks into crowds and get killed/removed from society will also be very much less than the number of possible victims. Unless they breed much faster (which is difficult if you're dead or in prison), eventually we'll run out of such truck drivers and everyone will be safe(r).
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    Quote Originally Posted by NotAllThere View Post
    So in February, Trump talks about an attack in Sweden. Then it happens in April... Maybe he was looking at the wrong page of his calendar.

    The number of people prepared to drive trucks into crowds and get killed/removed from society will also be very much less than the number of possible victims. Unless they breed much faster (which is difficult if you're dead or in prison), eventually we'll run out of such truck drivers and everyone will be safe(r).
    Doesn't seem to have happened in Iraq, Syria etc.

    The number of people willing to drive a vehicle into a crowd is increasing that is why the number of attacks are increasing. You only need a few and its a serious problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vetran View Post
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    The number of people willing to drive a vehicle into a crowd is increasing that is why the number of attacks are increasing. You only need a few and its a serious problem.
    Is it really? The numbers are still very small. The number of murderous bastards might well be unchanged (or even decreased) - it's just now they've a simple method of expressing their hatred. It's certainly simpler and cheaper than getting hold of the right kind of explosives for a suicide bombing.
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    It's certainly simpler and cheaper than getting hold of the right kind of explosives for a suicide bombing
    Quite. Totally unpreventable given all the lorries on the roads in cities.

    Maybe we should stop this daft PC pretence that the current wave of terrorism in Europe it is nothing to do with migrants and minorities, the products of previous migration, and control our borders properly. If we only took in high performers who accept our core values and integrate we would not have these problems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xoggoth View Post
    Quite. Totally unpreventable given all the lorries on the roads in cities.

    Maybe we should stop this daft PC pretence that the current wave of terrorism in Europe it is nothing to do with migrants and minorities, the products of previous migration, and control our borders properly. If we only took in high performers who accept our core values and integrate we would not have these problems.
    far too sensible
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    Quote Originally Posted by xoggoth View Post
    Quite. Totally unpreventable given all the lorries on the roads in cities.

    Maybe we should stop this daft PC pretence that the current wave of terrorism in Europe it is nothing to do with migrants and minorities, the products of previous migration, and control our borders properly. If we only took in high performers who accept our core values and integrate we would not have these problems.
    You can never tell who is going to integrate well. Having said that, high performers might have a better chance to become high earners and that can help them become more peaceful, because once you have some worldly possessions you are less likely to want to stop enjoying them. When you have little and see little chance of climbing the social ladder, you may think that blowing yourself up is an attractive way to vent your frustration. I don't think people fleeing the war want to be in Europe, they's rather go back, but once a war starts rolling, there is no way of telling when it's going to end. Accepting our values sounds easy, but it's difficult to do in practice, because even if they try to do so, they are constantly reminded that they are different, foreign.

    This is what Sadiq Khan had to say when he wrote an introduction to his "Fairness not Favours"

    "(...) no matter how hard I try not to allow my faith to define me as an MP – no matter how many times I ask not to have my religion precede my occupation when I am introduced or described – the fact is that others do often define me by my faith."

    I think this is a shared experience among foreigners, not just Muslim. As soon as they look/speak/dress/behave different than the majority of the local population, they will be branded in a certain way and they may not be able to ever shake it off. Eastern Europeans were often called "communists" before 2000. Now they are called "economic migrants". Anyone with a brown skin is now a Muslim or a terrorist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PurpleGorilla View Post
    I thought mentioning the M word was an instant ...?
    It is. M for moment, m for millisecond. They're all synonyms for instant.
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