My worst was £15k owed for several months. Applied to the small claims court with a large amount of interest (8% above the base rate), and lo and behold they paid up. That was many years ago, so don't know how easy it is nowadays, but it might be the way to go.
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Originally posted by squarepeg View PostEmailed CEO and Business Dev Manager at the agency and will talk to the client tomorrow. If I don't get paid by midnight 2 May I walk on 3 May.Comment
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Originally posted by Moose423956 View PostMy worst was £15k owed for several months. Applied to the small claims court with a large amount of interest (8% above the base rate), and lo and behold they paid up. That was many years ago, so don't know how easy it is nowadays, but it might be the way to go.Comment
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Why not name the agency on here and then invite them to comment? Usually there is another side to the story. A lot of contractors I have worked with are difficult to deal with - I hope you are not one of them.Comment
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Originally posted by squarepeg View Postthe timesheets are paper, just to make it more difficult to meet the Monday deadline...Comment
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Originally posted by squarepeg View PostI raised the invoice today following their procedures outlined in the contract and the documentation. Those procedures look like they are specifically designed to make to difficult to submit the invoice on time. But I did it. They refused the invoice, because... it has a total sum, not 6 x daily rate (same total). They are also not accepting the timesheet as submitted (I sent it via email as instructed) unless it is sent by my to their email address, CC'ed to my managed and the manager replies to all confirming submission... they invented that procedure on the spot, as soon as I submitted the timesheet and the invoice via email as stipulated in the contract and the "Welcome" pack... also, the timesheets are paper, just to make it more difficult to meet the Monday deadline... I didn't miss it, so they made me miss it by inventing this bulltulip. I re-enabled my CV on Monster and JobServe.
I had agents miss payments, play tricks on me, but not on the first invoice. If they don't dispute the total on the invoice they have no grounds to delay payment. The client signed the timesheet, the invoice is correct, there is no reason to not OK it for payment.The Chunt of Chunts.Comment
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I'd be checking if any other contractors at the client are also owed one or more invoices and if this is a regular or ongoing thing. Could be early signs the agency are having cashflow problems in which case you want as little outstanding with them as possible. i.e. weekly/fortnightly invoices rather than monthly.
Particularly if they're a noddy agency run by shysters with a history of phoenixing to avoid unpaid debts. Find out who the directors are and whether they've been directors of now dissolved agencies and search for any history of them on here.
Hopefully they're just the usual bunch of incompetent parasites and there's nothing more serious to worry about.Maybe tomorrow, I'll want to settle down. Until tomorrow, I'll just keep moving on.Comment
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You need a warchest asap if one month without pay throws a spanner in the works. What with Brexit coming up I'd wanting to operate with at least 6 to 12 months of cover."Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience". Mark TwainComment
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Originally posted by squarepeg View PostI raised the invoice today following their procedures outlined in the contract and the documentation. Those procedures look like they are specifically designed to make to difficult to submit the invoice on time. But I did it. They refused the invoice, because... it has a total sum, not 6 x daily rate (same total).
I checked with with contractors and some accountants on what invoices should have in them then found a template before I submitted my first one.
Originally posted by squarepeg View PostThey are also not accepting the timesheet as submitted (I sent it via email as instructed) unless it is sent by my to their email address, CC'ed to my managed and the manager replies to all confirming submission... they invented that procedure on the spot, as soon as I submitted the timesheet and the invoice via email as stipulated in the contract and the "Welcome" pack... also, the timesheets are paper, just to make it more difficult to meet the Monday deadline... I didn't miss it, so they made me miss it by inventing this bulltulip. I re-enabled my CV on Monster and JobServe.
Originally posted by squarepeg View PostI had agents miss payments, play tricks on me, but not on the first invoice. If they don't dispute the total on the invoice they have no grounds to delay payment. The client signed the timesheet, the invoice is correct, there is no reason to not OK it for payment.
I suggest you speak to the client first as a late first invoice isn't rare.
Though in my case I've found over the years that some agents actually chase you to do your timesheet and invoice as they don't get paid if you don't submit them as sometimes the end client wants to see them."You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JRComment
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Originally posted by SueEllen View PostThough in my case I've found over the years that some agents actually chase you to do your timesheet and invoice as they don't get paid if you don't submit them as sometimes the end client wants to see them.
Maybe this agency has a long lead time between them getting paid by client that they can be lax about paying contractors and it's part of their cashflow approach to close the gap as much as possible between them getting paid and having to pay out.Maybe tomorrow, I'll want to settle down. Until tomorrow, I'll just keep moving on.Comment
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