Reality is not real.

[BrilloPad]

I remember some scientist wondering where matter sucked into a black hole goes as matter cannot be destroyed. He postulated that matter does not exit - we are just holographic projections from the edge of the universe!

[NotAllThere]

Irrespective of whether it is what happens, it is religious crap and not scientific fact.

If it happens, then it's objective. If we know that it happens (even if afterwards), then it's been verified. Until then, I concede it cannot be a scientific fact. However, that simply means that it can't be tested by scientific means. Since Turing, we've known that there are propositions that are entirely reasonable that are not testable. The reasonableness or rationality of a proposition, I'd submit, cannot be determined objectively - it's a matter of opinion.

I think this world is real. Can't prove it, and can't think of any tests that could verify it one way or another, or even hint at being true - which leads me to the conclusion that spending more time thinking about it possibly being not real is a waste of time.

It's certainly very surreal on occasion.

[MarillionFan]

If it happens, then it's objective. If we know that it happens (even if afterwards), then it's been verified. Until then, I concede it cannot be a scientific fact. However, that simply means that it can't be tested by scientific means. Since Turing, we've known that there are propositions that are entirely reasonable that are not testable. The reasonableness or rationality of a proposition, I'd submit, cannot be determined objectively - it's a matter of opinion.

I think this world is real. Can't prove it, and can't think of any tests that could verify it one way or another, or even hint at being true - which leads me to the conclusion that spending more time thinking about it possibly being not real is a waste of time.

It's certainly very surreal on occasion.

Elon Musk: The chance we are not living in a computer simulation is 'one in billions' | The Independent

I'm with Elon on this. It seems infeasible that life is not a false construct.

[northernladyuk]

If it happens, then it's objective. If we know that it happens (even if afterwards), then it's been verified. Until then, I concede it cannot be a scientific fact. However, that simply means that it can't be tested by scientific means. Since Turing, we've known that there are propositions that are entirely reasonable that are not testable. The reasonableness or rationality of a proposition, I'd submit, cannot be determined objectively - it's a matter of opinion.

Life after death, gnomes, pixies, whatever your fancy - there is no reason to think any of them exist. But call it something other than superstition if you want.

[NotAllThere]

Life after death, gnomes, pixies, whatever your fancy - there is no reason to think any of them exist. But call it something other than superstition if you want.

I've been to Zürich and a Frank Black concert.

If someone has what they believe is evidence that the Great Pumpkin exists, then they might have a good reason to think it does. Anyway pursuit of all this was simply that I was interested for few minutes in the question - what would have to happen for the idea of "life after death" not to be a matter of faith/superstition/irrationality, but to be a scientific fact?

[BrilloPad]

One in three people believe they have a guardian angel. And they are right. Its called luck.

Statistics is hard for humans to grasp.

[Pip in a Poke]

I've been to Zürich and a Frank Black concert.

If someone has what they believe is evidence that the Great Pumpkin exists, then they might have a good reason to think it does. Anyway pursuit of all this was simply that I was interested for few minutes in the question - what would have to happen for the idea of "life after death" not to be a matter of faith/superstition/irrationality, but to be a scientific fact?

I love School of Rock

[BrilloPad]

Reality may or not be real.

Pip in a poke is definitely not real.

[Pip in a Poke]

Reality may or not be real.

Pip in a poke is definitely not real.

<----- Take a look at that.

I'm way out of your league.

[The_Equalizer]

One in three people believe they have a guardian angel. And they are right. Its called luck.

Statistics is hard for humans to grasp.

My old headmaster told us there's no such thing a luck, just hard work.