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    Quote Originally Posted by VectraMan View Post
    Yes but that's 8 years, or at least it is in Germany. I think after 5 you get a EC permanent residence permit that allows you to move elsewhere in the EU (except Denmark, Ireland and that formerly great island that nobody talks about anymore), but you can get the right to stay in Germany permanently after a couple of years.

    And citizenship is a big step. I can't imagine my Dad wanting to become a French citizen unless it's his only option.
    Yes, but whilst we're in the EU you can hold both passports. I'm 8 years in Germany a year before Ausgang. Phew - just better pass dem test!
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    I am not moving to quire citizenship or to get EU passport to work in Europe, I genuinely just want to move to retire kind of thing, its something I wanted to do for a while but needed to do some contracts to pay more of the mortgage...I'd also like to take my family with me, which maybe a problem as they are too young to retire. I can show income like BTL ( however one doesn't know how the BTL will pan out after Brexit if its a hard Brexit !!)

    My grandparents are not Irish ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by SandyD View Post
    I am not moving to quire citizenship or to get EU passport to work in Europe, ...
    Then like any US citizen currently, for Germany at least, you'll need to apply for a Visa every so many years and at least B1/2 in the lingo.
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    UK Expats in Europe...............and ye shall knowest them by their interminable whining and bitching about the democratic wishes of a country they have long since departed and stopped contributing to.

    “The period of the disintegration of the European Union has begun. And the first vessel to have departed is Britain”

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    Quote Originally Posted by SandyD View Post
    I recall long time ago many here had properties in France, I think a few actually had their families living in France while they go contracting wherever required. Am sure some of you may have properties in Spain and the like... I expect the ones who were there for a while can get an EU passport.. what about the ones who just owned a holiday property?

    What is the view with regards the Brexit now?? I have planned to move to Europe someday permanently, am contracting in Europe now, but would like to move permanently not for work, just to live there. I know its a bad time now with guarantee of UK expats rights living in Europe.. anyone have any thought on moving at this bad time??
    Quote Originally Posted by northernladyuk View Post
    On the legalities, a period of residency (not property ownership) is required to qualify for citizenship. Some countries (like Spain) do not recognise dual citizenship, but I don't know whether in practice they have a way of enforcing the repudiation of British citizenship.

    Do you happen to have an Irish grandparent? Irish citizenship through birth or descent
    There are some EU countries that don’t recognise dual citizenship but the rule is not enforced with the exception of Austria. In fact the EU says that citizens should not be barred from having dual nationality.

    Residency is the main path to obtaining citizenship but it is not the only factor. Owning property will help a lot as it is proof of address and proof of paying council tax and utility bills.

    A first move would be to open up a bank account in the country of your choice. (Do this NOW).

    Another tip is to open up a limited company in the country of your choice even if it is dormant. Some countries will encourage new business start-ups and you can start up a company with one Euro and a free business bank account.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shaunbhoy View Post
    UK Expats in Europe...............and ye shall knowest them by their interminable whining and bitching about the democratic wishes of a country they have long since departed and stopped contributing to.

    Not the expats I know. Brexit has just speeded up the intent to become a citizen of the only true democracy in Europe.

    Quote Originally Posted by Paddy View Post
    There are some EU countries that don’t recognise dual citizenship but the rule is not enforced with the exception of Austria. In fact the EU says that citizens should not be barred from having dual nationality.

    Residency is the main path to obtaining citizenship but it is not the only factor. Owning property will help a lot as it is proof of address and proof of paying council tax and utility bills.

    A first move would be to open up a bank account in the country of your choice. (Do this NOW).

    Another tip is to open up a limited company in the country of your choice even if it is dormant. Some countries will encourage new business start-ups and you can start up a company with one Euro and a free business bank account.
    You want to be careful of that. Owning property or even a ltd co in Switzerland will not give you a residency permit, nor a work permit, meaning you're limited to 3 months stay if you're not part of the EU. I can imagine that once Britain has left the EU, British citizens will find that they are in a similar situation.
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    I am going the Irish Passport route myself
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paddy View Post

    A first move would be to open up a bank account in the country of your choice. (Do this NOW).
    Many countries won't allow you to open up a bank account without a permanent address in the country along with proof that you reside there such as a utility bill
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    Quote Originally Posted by NotAllThere View Post
    Not the expats I know. Brexit has just speeded up the intent to become a citizen of the only true democracy in Europe.

    You want to be careful of that. Owning property or even a ltd co in Switzerland will not give you a residency permit, nor a work permit, meaning you're limited to 3 months stay if you're not part of the EU. I can imagine that once Britain has left the EU, British citizens will find that they are in a similar situation.
    You are quite right and the same goes for the rest of the EU. My suggestions are in support of obtaining a residents permit.

    If Brexit goes horribly wrong, there were be many disappointed property owners who will be bound by the three or six month stay limitation.
    Brexiteers remind me of religious fanatics, only faith, no facts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SandyD View Post
    I am not moving to quire citizenship or to get EU passport to work in Europe, I genuinely just want to move to retire kind of thing, its something I wanted to do for a while but needed to do some contracts to pay more of the mortgage...I'd also like to take my family with me, which maybe a problem as they are too young to retire. I can show income like BTL ( however one doesn't know how the BTL will pan out after Brexit if its a hard Brexit !!)

    My grandparents are not Irish ...
    Interesting where, Mediterranean ?

    A lot of Germans retire in Turkey so it I doubt it will be a problem.

    What about similar places in the UK such as Bognor Regis?
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