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    Quote Originally Posted by Mordac View Post
    Poor thing, how's she going to pay all those libel costs? Oh, I've just remembered, I don't care.
    No-one cares apart from Daily Mail readers where she has a column and Fox News viewers where she is some kind of pundit...
    Brexit is having a wee in the middle of the room at a house party because nobody is talking to you, and then complaining about the smell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WTFH View Post
    I'd fix that by changing "had" to "have" and then trying not to marginalise anyone who hasn't lived in this country for at least 5 generations.
    You think we have 5 generations to sort this out before it gets really nasty?

    Plenty of other second generation immigrants do brilliantly after all your Doctor is likely to be one if you are anywhere near a major city.
    "If you didn't do anything that wasn't good for you it would be a very dull life. What are you gonna do? Everything that is pleasant in life is dangerous."

    I want to see the hand of history on his collar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NotAllThere View Post
    Your logic is flawed.

    1. Churchill was not far right
    2. I agree with something Churchill said
    3. Therefore I am not far right.


    Unfortunately 3 does not necessarily follow from 1 and 2. Churchill did not express many of the other views you hold.
    Your analysis does not show that my logic is flawed. It shows, or implies, that I have given insufficient evidence for its submissions to be proved to be true (having given only one example of an agreement between Churchill, and Katie Hopkins and I).


    So I would need to give more examples.

    Here is another example:
    1. GunBoats.
    Churchill approved Bomber Harris's plans to carpet-bomb Dresden during the war, killing thousands. If he did that, is it even remotely possible that he would not have approved of the use of GunBoats to prevent illegal migrants from approaching UK shores? Of course not.

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    he used them on rioters

    100 hundred years on, Jade Wright looks back at Liverpool general transport strike - Liverpool Echo

    A HUNDRED years ago this week, Liverpool was gripped by the biggest mass social unrest and strike action the city has ever seen.

    British troops were dispatched to deal with protesters on the streets and a warship was stationed in the Mersey.

    The drastic actions of the then home secretary Winston Churchill, which resulted in violent clashes and deaths, have led some historians to conclude that Liverpool’s general transport strike of 1911 was the nearest the UK has come to a revolution.
    Rioters attacked police and troops with bricks, bottles and chimney pots in Christian Street. Docker Michael Prendergast and carter John Sutcliffe were shot dead by an army escort while allegedly mobbing prison vans.

    Four days later, HMS Antrim, an armed naval cruiser, was brought in to patrol the Mersey. But it was too late – by this point the Liverpool strike was spreading across Britain.
    "If you didn't do anything that wasn't good for you it would be a very dull life. What are you gonna do? Everything that is pleasant in life is dangerous."

    I want to see the hand of history on his collar.

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    In the eyes of some, Churchill was a war criminal, not unlike that nasty Blair? Not his finest hour: The dark side of Winston Churchill | The Independent

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    Quote Originally Posted by darmstadt View Post
    In the eyes of some, Churchill was a war criminal, not unlike that nasty Blair? Not his finest hour: The dark side of Winston Churchill | The Independent

    Interesting find.

    Reading through it, it shows that, even at the time, there were many who did not agree with Churchill.
    But the point is that they didn't regard him as being what today would be regarded as "far right".

    I suppose the problem is that in Britain today, the left does not respect those that the left regards as being "far right".
    In the past, opposing sides would disagree with their political opponents, but would nontheless respect them. It is where the idea of MP's referring to "the honourable gentleman" comes from.
    But today, the left not only disagrees with people like Trump, Hopkins, and Farage, but it fails to respect them as well. This isn't right.

    Saying that, I am guilty of failing to respect some on the left. While I respect (but disagree) with Corbyn, don't get me started on Abbott or most of the rest of them!

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    The problem with far right figures such as Hopkins, Farage and Trump is that they're extremely dim witted, and it is difficult to formulate arguments that don't expose them as being as thick as pigsh't, which means they don't feel respected.
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    Brexit is having a wee in the middle of the room at a house party because nobody is talking to you, and then complaining about the smell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by darmstadt View Post
    Indeed totally shocking but that is racism for you blind & stupid.
    "If you didn't do anything that wasn't good for you it would be a very dull life. What are you gonna do? Everything that is pleasant in life is dangerous."

    I want to see the hand of history on his collar.

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