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    Default New poll shocker ...

    This is the final Survation poll

    CON 41.3
    LAB 40.4
    LD 7.8
    UKIP 2.4
    SNP 3.6
    PC 1.7
    GRE 2.3
    OTH 0.5

    UK poll - Survation: Cons 41.3%, Lab 40.4%

    DOOMED!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by AtW View Post
    This is the final Survation poll

    CON 41.3
    LAB 40.4
    LD 7.8
    UKIP 2.4
    SNP 3.6
    PC 1.7
    GRE 2.3
    OTH 0.5

    UK poll - Survation: Cons 41.3%, Lab 40.4%

    DOOMED!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by AtW View Post
    This is the final Survation poll

    CON 41.3
    LAB 40.4
    LD 7.8
    UKIP 2.4
    SNP 3.6
    PC 1.7
    GRE 2.3
    OTH 0.5

    UK poll - Survation: Cons 41.3%, Lab 40.4%

    DOOMED!!!
    Yeah, but you saw all the other ones from today, right?

    ICM+12 (Con lead)
    ComRes+10
    Panelbase+8
    YouGov+7 (they bottled it and assigned all the DKs )
    Kantar+5
    Survation+1

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    And the final Yougov poll

    CON: 42% (-)
    LAB: 35% (-3)
    LDEM: 10% (+1)
    UKIP: 5% (+1)
    GRN: 2% (-)

    Here are the Conservative leads of Labour by Polling company

    BMG: +13
    ICM: +12
    ComRes: +10
    Panelbase: +8
    Opinium: +7
    TNS: +5
    YouGov: +7
    Survation: +1
    Ipsos Mori: awaiting

    (Source : Brian Elects Twitter page)

    This is a victory for the power of the press. Rich press barons have easily created this result, as you have to be honest, Theresa May has absolutely not done this on her own. Her campaign has been shambolic and without substance. The great unwashed have been told how to vote through propaganda. The public don't want to know policies it seems.

    I don't know where we'll go from here. One can only hope that the 2015 'Shy Tory' phenomenon is not repeated in 2017.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamesbrown View Post
    Yeah, but you saw all the other ones from today, right?
    It does not feel like Tory Con victory night

    It just doesn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AtW View Post
    It does not feel like Tory Con victory night

    It just doesn't.
    I don't want it either (not a big majority at least), but I'm just looking at the evidence, especially the evidence from the ground (Labour, Tory and Lib Dem canvassing), and it tells a really consistent story. Labour are up in vote share since 2015, as the small parties are getting squeezed, but the Tories are up more (UKIP-->Tory, Green, Lib Dem -->Labour). Also, the Labour vote is concentrated, geographically (very bad for seats). See here, for example. Labour candidates are really despondent in northern marginals that, until recently, had a significant UKIP vote share. It's going to be a sizeable Tory win...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamesbrown View Post
    It's going to be a sizeable Tory win...
    And in 2022 it will be a Labour landslide.

    By that time I'll be retired, probably somewhere else drinking martini on the beach ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by AtW View Post
    By that time I'll be retired, probably somewhere else drinking martini on the beach ...
    The Isle of Wight isn't very nice this time of year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AtW View Post
    And in 2022 it will be a Labour landslide.

    By that time I'll be retired, probably somewhere else serving martini on the beach ...
    FTFY

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    Quote Originally Posted by ctdctd View Post
    FTFY
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