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    Quote Originally Posted by BlasterBates View Post
    With the DUP now running Northern Ireland, some Republican hardmen will now be going round trying to start some trouble. It will be more difficult to stop them if the Catholic community are totally p***ed off.

    Incidentally if Sinn Fein were to pop up in a UK government the same thing would happen in the Unionist communities, they would probably start marching.
    The IRA where better at causing disruption. They also preferred to target the UK government, armed forces and police over members of the public with their bombs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SueEllen View Post
    The UK government needs to be impartial in NI.

    By having the DUP as part of the UK government when the NI assembly fell apart before the GE is not impartial.
    Can even see trouble flaring up in Scotland with them orange order marches, they'll be smugger than ever with their new support. Or that's how it'll be painted.

    Too much time has been spent on the peace process for David Cameron to screw it up in a unwarranted Tory referendum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Equalizer View Post
    Given the British Government can't force any party in Stormont to go back into power sharing how can a Conservative/DUP coalition make a difference? And as you said, it fell apart prior to the GE and this was due to issues related to Northern Ireland.
    Firstly, impartiality is about the Good Friday Agreement, not simply about the current circumstances. Secondly, with regard to the current circumstances, the British government can make conditions more or less likely for a return to power sharing - Tory / DUP agreement makes the conditions less likely.

    Having said that, Sinn Féin are looking for a good dose of Westminster rule anyway so that the Brits can get the blame for the inevitable hospital closures and other cuts. In one way this plays into their hands. But, on the other side of the argument, the DUP may extract additional funds from Westminster. So it's interesting to watch with so many factors in play.

    But... this doesn't do the British government much credit as an 'honest broker' as per the requirements of the Good Friday Agreement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlasterBates View Post
    With the DUP now running Northern Ireland, some Republican hardmen will now be going round trying to start some trouble. It will be more difficult to stop them if the Catholic community are totally p***ed off.

    Incidentally if Sinn Fein were to pop up in a UK government the same thing would happen in the Unionist communities, they would probably start marching.
    They've been running round murdering people for the last few years - it just you don't often get to here about it. Oh and Corbyn would be happy for Sinn Fein to prop him up - if only they took their seats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SueEllen View Post
    The IRA where better at causing disruption. They also preferred to target the UK government, armed forces and police over members of the public with their bombs.
    Hmmm. The victims of the Warrington and Enniskillen bombs would disagree with you there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Equalizer View Post
    They've been running round murdering people for the last few years - it just you don't often get to here about it. Oh and Corbyn would be happy for Sinn Fein to prop him up - if only they took their seats.
    Possibly. But it really is unthinkable that he would do a deal with them. All academic as they won;t take up their seats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by northernladyuk View Post
    Hmmm. The victims of the Warrington and Enniskillen bombs would disagree with you there.
    "Preferred" doesn't mean they only did.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Equalizer View Post
    They've been running round murdering people for the last few years - it just you don't often get to here about it. Oh and Corbyn would be happy for Sinn Fein to prop him up - if only they took their seats.
    ....and if he did it would be just as wrong, I think either party should go for a minority government and simply see whether they get the votes.

    I'm against Brexit but I wouldn't want to see the Northern Ireland process break down to thwart it. I'd rather suffer the dire consequences of Brexit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlasterBates View Post
    ....and if he did it would be just as wrong, I think either party should go for a minority government and simply see whether they get the votes.
    Yes. May should have the courage to say to DUP: No deal with you, but you support us or get Corbyn.
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