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    May is clearly rudderless and the Tory party is now effectively a coalition between the Hard Brexit Tories lead by David Davis and the Soft Brexit Tories lead by Philip Hammond.

    Brexit: Philip Hammond risks new cabinet rift by insisting current EU customs arrangements must stay | The Independent

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    Good of our leaders to show their mettle at the time we really need them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jamesbrown View Post
    You can call her whatever you'd like. Indeed, I believe you do. Korbyn is an utterly disingenuous Marxist ****. Some of us are old enough (or pay sufficient attention) to remember precisely what an utter **** he is. Does that help?
    Sort of agree with some of what you say but politics is all about shifting views and opinions, the GE showed that people do not trust newspapers if they did then Corbyn would not have done so well considering the complete hash May made of the campaign and the recent events of the fire in Kensington showing Corbyn to be a man of the people.

    I think there will be another GE either late this year or more likely next year and Corbyn will most likely win or be in a position to form a stable minority government as he is now creating a killing field for May by his support of a hard brexit and putting out unrealistic budget expectations by borrowing 200 -300 billion and increasing our debt to over 2 trillion.

    The only hope the tories have is that there will be boundary changes next year that will give them an additional 23 seats minus the few lost by by-elections, but I expect that the DUP will not work out and an election will be called before they come into effect.

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    Labour supported by the professional middle class

    The Tory party's support seems to come from pensioners and losers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlasterBates View Post
    Labour supported by the professional middle class

    The Tory party's support seems to come from pensioners and losers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shaunbhoy View Post
    Slow news day on the Guardian duty desk!
    Absolutely, and it won't be long before the Guardian itself folds as they've been losing tens of millions of pounds each year and have been sacking all their experienced journalists.

    In any case, however desperate the Remainers are, they'd be closing the door after the horse has bolted because:

    (a) Now Article 50 has been triggered, we'd have to renegotiate our EU membership terms if we decided to stay, and the new terms would be dire.

    (b) Labour, who would win the election in the event of a Tory split, are just as committed to Brexit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OwlHoot View Post
    Absolutely, and it won't be long before the Guardian itself folds as they've been losing tens of millions of pounds each year and have been sacking all their experienced journalists.
    They are losing money because they provide quality journalism and don't turn into clickbait Daily Mail tulip that ToryGraph became

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    Quote Originally Posted by AtW View Post
    They are losing money because they provide quality journalism and don't turn into clickbait Daily Mail tulip that ToryGraph became
    The Telegraph's online edition is a joke, and I think has only a handful of paid subscribers (hardly surprising as half their articles are probably written by semi-literate unpaid interns, as they have also sacked most of their experienced journalists)

    P.S. Most of the Telegraph's paid subscribers abandoned them when they closed the article commenting facility, which the Daily Mail still includes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OwlHoot View Post
    P.S. Most of the Telegraph's paid subscribers abandoned them when they closed the article commenting facility, which the Daily Mail still includes.
    Yup - reading comments was often the best part...

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlasterBates View Post
    for which read "ex Students and their BOMAD parents mired in tuition fee debt" (£100 billion to date, and rising steadily, with ever increasing numbers in this unenviable position).

    If in the next election campaign TM simply stole Labour's lunch and made a manifesto pledge to write off all this debt then she'd sweep to victory with a massive majority, and Corbyn and co, and the treacherous backstabbing Tory Remainers, would be left flapping in the sand like a lot of beached halibuts after a tsunami!
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