Finsbury Park attack - terrorism or not?

[meridian]

I wonder where this hatred of Muslims came from?

Sun / Express / Daily Mail? I wonder if they can be charged as accessories?

[BrilloPad]

You can hardly compare the two. There are a group of muslims who want to **** you up at any cost, whereas gays will only **** you up if they fancy you.

I disagree strongly. The recent terror attacks in the name of Muslims were by people who are not Muslims.

My point was there are thicko bigots around who just want to hate. Muslims, Christians, gays, straights, fatties, thinnies.

Can't we just accept people for what they are?

[BrilloPad]

Sun / Express / Daily Mail? I wonder if they can be charged as accessories?

Good question! They will no doubt claim press freedom.

While asking how much your house is worth.

[MrMarkyMark]

EDL calling for militias and cleaning out the islamic problem -> idiot takes it into his head to "do something about it."

No different from ISIS calling on Muslims to carry out attacks in the UK. No direct sponsorship but clearly influencing the gullible. If we treat the Muslim version as terrorism why not this?

I'm not saying it was specifically the EDL influencing him here but there is an undercurrent of right wing, nominally Christian, extremism in the UK and Europe calling from much the same actions as the nominally Muslim extremists.

Far-Right and neo-Nazi terror arrests double*

He had a Twitter account following 2 members of the EDL, but did not post on it.

[Lockhouse]

I don't think he's a terrorist, he's a lone wolf with mental issues.

[original PM]

Not terrorism.

Not political motivation, not part of a larger goal, no claiming of responsibility by an organisation.

It was motivated quite clearly by a dislike/hatred of muslims caused by recent terrorist attacks perpetrated by people allegedly acting on behalf of the Muslim faith but in reality acting on behalf of ISIS who claims to represent a Muslim State.

[MarillionFan]

EDL calling for militias and cleaning out the islamic problem -> idiot takes it into his head to "do something about it."

No different from ISIS calling on Muslims to carry out attacks in the UK. No direct sponsorship but clearly influencing the gullible. If we treat the Muslim version as terrorism why not this?

I'm not saying it was specifically the EDL influencing him here but there is an undercurrent of right wing, nominally Christian, extremism in the UK and Europe calling from much the same actions as the nominally Muslim extremists.

Far-Right and neo-Nazi terror arrests double*

Whoa whoa whoa. Stop looking for justification which isn't there. At no point has anyone said he has ties to the EDL. It's scraping the bottom of the barrel to assume he's anything to do with them.

I have nothing to do with EDL, but I tell you what, I am getting fed up with the whole Muslim agenda in this country. There are now over 3m Muslims in Britain. That's doubled in 10 years. In some parts of London 50% of the population are Muslim with over 1.5m born abroad. 1000's of Asylum seekers who some then choose to attack the population of the country that have taken them in.

That's not Racism. That's not terrorism. That's fact. Enough is enough.

[original PM]

Whoa whoa whoa. Stop looking for justification which isn't there. At no point has anyone said he has ties to the EDL. It's scraping the bottom of the barrel to assume he's anything to do with them.

I have nothing to do with EDL, but I tell you what, I am getting fed up with the whole Muslim agenda in this country. There are now over 3m Muslims in Britain. That's doubled in 10 years. In some parts of London 50% of the population are Muslim with over 1.5m born abroad. 1000's of Asylum seekers who some then choose to attack the population of the country that have taken them in.

That's not Racism. That's not terrorism. That's fact. Enough is enough.

You can't say that it's racialism.

I know we are supposed to have freedom of speech in this county but you know, not for you white indigenous people - anything you say about anything which is not in total 100% support of letting every man and his dog into this country regardless of the impact, fall out and facts, goddam it man facts - will still be racist.

Cos you is white innit.

[woohoo]

I disagree strongly. The recent terror attacks in the name of Muslims were by people who are not Muslims.

My point was there are thicko bigots around who just want to hate. Muslims, Christians, gays, straights, fatties, thinnies.

Can't we just accept people for what they are?

I think on the whole we do accept people for what they are, Britain is a remarkable country. However, I still think we can point out and criticize religions, many are backward and incompatible with Western life. We can also criticize communities that do not integrate with the wider community. This does not mean people are thicko bigots.

[SueEllen]

Whoa whoa whoa. Stop looking for justification which isn't there. At no point has anyone said he has ties to the EDL. It's scraping the bottom of the barrel to assume he's anything to do with them.

I have nothing to do with EDL, but I tell you what, I am getting fed up with the whole Muslim agenda in this country. There are now over 3m Muslims in Britain. That's doubled in 10 years. In some parts of London 50% of the population are Muslim with over 1.5m born abroad. 1000's of Asylum seekers who some then choose to attack the population of the country that have taken them in.

That's not Racism. That's not terrorism. That's fact. Enough is enough.

What Muslim agenda? Explain as like those who call themselves Christians they are not one homogeneous group.