Finsbury Park attack - terrorism or not?

[original PM]

You stated

this isn't backed up by your source -


Never having a full-time job and working intermittently is not the same as never working.

I think the point is there are generations of people who do not see continually working for a living, building a career and aiming to be completely self sufficient as a necessity - more that work is something you have to do to allow you to continue to sign on.

In essence they can do what ever and there will always be some one to stop them from ending up homeless and starving.

[Fronttoback]

You stated

this isn't backed up by your source -


Never having a full-time job and working intermittently is not the same as never working.

I think we both know you are out of your depth now and grasping at straws. You didn't even notice that the article was from 2001! You better leave it.

[SueEllen]

I think the point is there are generations of people who do not see continually working for a living, building a career and aiming to be completely self sufficient as a necessity - more that work is something you have to do to allow you to continue to sign on.

Why didn't he say that then?

In essence they can do what ever and there will always be some one to stop them from ending up homeless and starving.

And there has always been people like that.

Every immigrant group who has come here since the welfare state was formed is always amazed about how lazy some of the British are.

[northernladyuk]

So does the UK have four classes.

The underclass in the UK are those who cannot speak English, don't work and claim benefits to survive. Those that live on sink estates surviving on a life of crime- only entering the civilised world to use the super market. Generations of families who have never worked and live on sickness benefits. Crusties and travellers who have opted out of the system. The homeless.

They are not the working class. That is the underclass and it's growing in size.

Will you leave psychocandy alone? It's getting mean.