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    Quote Originally Posted by scooterscot View Post
    You mean like India when the Brits claimed it as their own?

    Ask the Iraqis. They din't even get a chance to answer the door.
    You'll need to ask all those ex-New Labour voters on here about the latter. The former is academic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scooterscot View Post
    You mean like India when the Brits claimed it as their own?

    Ask the Iraqis. They din't even get a chance to answer the door.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colonial_India - is very interesting in terms of what did happen in India.

    But then that was 300 ish years ago.

    but again you did not answer the question nearly tried to point out that because someone, somewhere in some other time did it then it must be wrong - or right depending on the point of view.

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    Quote Originally Posted by original PM View Post
    When did it become wrong to be proud of the nation you were born in and what it stands for?
    1939, or perhaps any other time when nationalism led to a catastrophe.

    And what exactly does Britain stand for anyway?
    Will work inside IR35. Or for food.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VectraMan View Post
    And what exactly does Britain stand for anyway?
    Can hardly be bothered if it were not so laughable. The UK is built on immigration. It is a nation of immigrants. The idea of defending our inherent culture be stemming immigration that was originally brought to us through immigration is the antithesis of intelligence.
    “We've always defined ourselves by the ability to overcome the impossible. And we count these moments. These moments when we dare to aim higher, to break barriers, to reach for the stars, to make the unknown known. We count these moments as our proudest achievements. But we lost all that. Or perhaps we've just forgotten that we are still pioneers. And we've barely begun. And that our greatest accomplishments cannot be behind us, because our destiny lies above us.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by VectraMan View Post
    1939, or perhaps any other time when nationalism led to a catastrophe.

    And what exactly does Britain stand for anyway?
    Perhaps we can ask the 600K people that turn up every year. That said, I do wonder if they are disappointed in the end?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Equalizer View Post
    Perhaps we can ask the 600K people that turn up every year. That said, I do wonder if they are disappointed in the end?
    I certainly woz a few weeks back.
    “We've always defined ourselves by the ability to overcome the impossible. And we count these moments. These moments when we dare to aim higher, to break barriers, to reach for the stars, to make the unknown known. We count these moments as our proudest achievements. But we lost all that. Or perhaps we've just forgotten that we are still pioneers. And we've barely begun. And that our greatest accomplishments cannot be behind us, because our destiny lies above us.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by scooterscot View Post
    Can hardly be bothered if it were not so laughable. The UK is built on immigration. It is a nation of immigrants. The idea of defending our inherent culture be stemming immigration that was originally brought to us through immigration is the antithesis of intelligence.
    If only you were brought up in the cosy south east of England then you'd have avoided this self-loathing.

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    Just look at his face:

    Brexit is having a wee in the middle of the room at a house party because nobody is talking to you, and then complaining about the smell.

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    The usual suspect spouting that daft "Britain is a nation of immigrants" crap again! Every major wave of migration to the UK has brought tensions and problems we never needed to have. Look what's kicked off most of the major riots in the last 35 years, where most serious terrorism in England and Wales has come from since 2003.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Equalizer View Post
    I think he's a point:

    "Holding up Poland as an example of a country ready to defend civilisation, he will warn against the threats of "terrorism and extremism".

    Poland's conservative government shares Mr Trump's hostile view of immigration and strong sense of sovereignty."

    Trump to say Western civilisation is at stake in Warsaw speech - BBC News
    Yep, Polish people: https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...refugee-policy

    Actually he's English now
    Brexit is having a wee in the middle of the room at a house party because nobody is talking to you, and then complaining about the smell.

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