Ignoring economics.

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Denial that Brexit means we will leave the EU and a believe that there is a still a means (somehow or other) that we can remain within it....

Most are not denying that, just trying to rebuff the the notion that will have a positive effect on the lives of the majority of the UK population.

Personally I can't wait for it to be over, so we can asses the damage and start rebuilding the bright new future we were promised.

If anyone is in denial it's the brexiteers who keep insisting that the whole deal and the way it's being handled by the Government so far is anything but a train wreck.

[BlasterBates]

Denial that Brexit means we will leave the EU and a believe that there is a still a means (somehow or other) that we can remain within it....

....having our cake and eating it.

Indeed some education is required.

[northernladyuk]

Denial that Brexit means we will leave the EU and a believe that there is a still a means (somehow or other) that we can remain within it....

What are you talking about? Of course the UK is leaving the EU. I am simply amused by the few hard core Brexiteers who are in denial that this is a ******* car crash. Most of you seem to have moved onto blaming the EU or Remoaners for the car crash.

[northernladyuk]

Most are not denying that, just trying to rebuff the the notion that will have a positive effect on the lives of the majority of the UK population.

Leave them their strawmen. It's all they have.

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What are you talking about? Of course the UK is leaving the EU. I am simply amused by the few hard core Brexiteers who are in denial that this is a ******* car crash. Most of you seem to have moved onto blaming the EU or Remoaners for the car crash.

Nope this is what it was always going to be one.... The idea that you could expect this to be anything other than what it is, is what I find surprising.

The outcome was obvious from the time Cameron said that no one was allowed to prepare for what happened if No won and to be blunt from 2005 when having been told to switch to a contribution based unemployment system with everyone pre-qualified and UK students auto-qualified between ages 16-18 Gordon Brown said no....

[northernladyuk]

Nope this is what it was always going to be one.... The idea that you could expect this to be anything other than what it is, is what I find surprising.

The outcome was obvious from the time Cameron said that no one was allowed to prepare for what happened if No won and to be blunt from 2005 when having been told to switch to a contribution based unemployment system with everyone pre-qualified and UK students auto-qualified between ages 16-18 Gordon Brown said no....

So to be clear: are you saying it was always going to be a car crash, or are you denying it is a car crash?

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So to be clear: are you saying it was always going to be a car crash, or are you denying it is a car crash?

I'm saying that the current state of affairs is exactly what I would expect them to be. The EU is being blooming useless and the UK is no better...

Mind you the destruction of the legal basis of the EU's €100bn bill sounds like it was fun to watch....

The problem all comes from a vote that asked people if they wanted x or not x where x was ill-defined and poorly described and not x was utterly undefined.... Why people went for not x rather than x is a matter for the history books....

If Cameron had gone to Brussels with a clear idea as to what he wanted that was explainable to people we wouldn't be in the mess. After all the referendum was only there for the lib dems to remove as the coalition was recreated post the 2015 election...

[The_Equalizer]

I see there's still many comments from those that don't pay tax in the UK (at least on their main income source).

Perhaps we could suggest £100 per moan payable to HMRC? It would soon fill the coffers.

[northernladyuk]

I'm saying that the current state of affairs is exactly what I would expect them to be.

So to be clear: are you saying it is a car crash, or are you denying it is a car crash?

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So to be clear: are you saying it is a car crash, or are you denying it is a car crash?

I'm not sure car crash is the term I would use.....