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    Quote Originally Posted by northernladyuk View Post
    There should be a Brexit app. All eligible voters have a Remain / Leave status which they update whenever they change their mind. Newly eligible voters record their status for the first time, and voters who lose eligibility have their status discounted.

    Any time the balance changes, Article 50 is invoked or withdrawn accordingly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by original PM View Post
    We had a referendum to stay in the EEC which at the time consisted of 9 countries and was geared around freedom of trade.

    Not quite the same.
    Most of the new countries who joined are there because of the UK's efforts to get them in.

    ...and they're still at it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlasterBates View Post
    Most of the new countries who joined are there because of the UK's efforts to get them in.

    ...and they're still at it.

    Boris Johnson says UK will support Turkey's bid to join EU despite Brexit vote | The Independent
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    Quote Originally Posted by BrilloPad View Post
    Don't believe in democracy.
    Now that's just not true. It's just that I'd prefer that thick people didn't have the vote.
    Can't provide a single argument - just insults.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Platypus View Post
    Much though I am loath to agree, good points. Where did you copy it from?

    On this basis, should not the referendum be re-run every few years?
    The death figure here is for England & Wales, I extrapolated from there:
    https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulat...rriages/deaths

    And 17 year olds:
    https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/reque...olds_in_uk_200

    So I rounded them to:
    50k per month death rate
    60k per month hitting 18 years old.

    I’m not saying the referendum should be run every couple of years but that perhaps once any deals are finally struck the numbers of those still alive/of voting age will have changed significantly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WTFH View Post
    The death figure here is for England & Wales, I extrapolated from there:
    https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulat...rriages/deaths

    And 17 year olds:
    https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/reque...olds_in_uk_200

    So I rounded them to:
    50k per month death rate
    60k per month hitting 18 years old.

    I’m not saying the referendum should be run every couple of years but that perhaps once any deals are finally struck the numbers of those still alive/of voting age will have changed significantly.
    It's reasonable to have a referendum on the term of the exit deal. There is no mandate for or against leaving the EEA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BrilloPad View Post
    Whining, unpleasant and moronic. Don't believe in democracy. Can't provide a single argument - just insults.

    And that is just the CUK mods(apart from cojak) who has the good sense to keep quiet. The rest are even worse.

    Hopefully they will soon be rounded up and sent for extermination.
    If you kill off all the remain voters, who’s going to pay taxes to make sure the leavers still get their heating allowance and pension?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BrilloPad View Post
    Whining, unpleasant and moronic. Don't believe in democracy...
    There was nothing democratic about the referendum. No one could possible understand the choice being made. Even until this day politicians do not know what it should look like despite lying through their teeth during the hustings.
    “We've always defined ourselves by the ability to overcome the impossible. And we count these moments. These moments when we dare to aim higher, to break barriers, to reach for the stars, to make the unknown known. We count these moments as our proudest achievements. But we lost all that. Or perhaps we've just forgotten that we are still pioneers. And we've barely begun. And that our greatest accomplishments cannot be behind us, because our destiny lies above us.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by scooterscot View Post
    There was nothing democratic about the referendum. No one could possible understand the choice being made. Even until this day politicians do not know what it should look like despite lying through their teeth during the hustings.
    There was something democratic about the referendum. People got votes.

    It's just regrettable that the implications of the referendum are complex, an awful lot of people are stupid, and the campaign was conducted negatively by the Remain side, and dishonestly by the Leave side.
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    There was nothing democratic about the referendum. No one could possible understand the choice being made.
    You could make the same argument about general elections. Very few are well informed about every issue when deciding which party to vote for and there are so many unknowns that even the wisest & most knowledgeable are taking a gamble.

    Most vote with their instincts and in their own interests and that is probably the wisest thing they can do. Societies are more likely to work if we go with the realities of human nature rather than pursue impractical ideals that ignore them.
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