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Labour's Jewish Problem
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...my quagmire of greed....my cesspit of laziness and unfairness....all I am doing is sticking two fingers up at nurses, doctors and other hard working employed professionals...
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Originally posted by Eirikur View PostThe strange thing is that the majority Jews living in the UK vote Labour for some unclear reason
Some current Labour MPs and councillors are Jewish. One of them, Luciana Berger, is known for getting anti-Semitic as well as sexist hate and death threats due to her Jewish background.
In addition some candidates of other parties show they anti-Semitic and/or racist by the way they campaign in their area.
The stupid thing is people like Ken Livingston are so fecking thick they don't realise there are a number of Jews who don't believe Israel should exist however they are too busy alienating them by coming out with anti-Semitic tulip."You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JRComment
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Originally posted by SueEllen View PostSome current Labour MPs and councillors are Jewish. One of them, Luciana Berger, is known for getting anti-Semitic as well as sexist hate and death threats due to her Jewish background.Comment
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Originally posted by Mordac View PostThe problem is that lefties in general are viscerally anti-Israel (both the govt and the very concept of the nation state) and don't seem to be able to draw the distinction between "Israel" and "Jews." The idiot Livingstone being a prime example.
The legitimacy of the term (in modern usage) remains controversial. According to the transdenominational Jewish platform My Jewish Learning: "Some scholars have claimed that by labeling another Jew self-hating, the accuser is claiming his or her own Judaism as normative–and implying that the Judaism of the accused is flawed or incorrect, based on a metric of the accuser’s own stances, religious beliefs, or political opinions. By arguing with the label, then, the accused is rejecting what has been defined as normative Judaism. The term “self-hating” thus places the person or object labeled outside the boundaries of the discourse–and outside the boundaries of the community."[29] Haaretz writes that the term is almost exclusively used today by the Jewish right against the Jewish left, and that within left-wing and liberal circles, is "usually considered a joke".[30] Richard Forer, writing for The Huffington Post, rejects the legitimacy of the term as it is commonly used, calling them so divisive that they make tolerance and cooperation impossible, eradicating the possibility for genuine understanding. Forer writes: "The notion that any Jew who is dedicated to justice for all people harbors self-hatred defies common sense. Given the self-esteem it takes to stand for justice amidst fierce denunciation, a more accurate assessment is that these are self-loving Jews."[31]
Jon Stewart, former host of The Daily Show, was repeatedly called a "self-hating Jew" by people whom he described as "fascistic".[32] Considering the term to be like equating someone with the Jews who turned their backs on each other during the Holocaust, he said, "I have people that I lost in the Holocaust and I just … go **** yourself. How dare you?" Stewart commented that the way his critics used the term—to define who is a Jew and who is not—was formerly always done by people who weren’t Jewish. He saw this as "more than nationalism". Stewart also criticized right-wing Jews for implying that they are the only ones who can decide what it means to be Jewish: "And you can’t observe (Judaism) in the way you want to observe. And I never thought that that would be coming from brethren. ... How dare they? That they only know the word of God and are the ones who are able to disseminate it. It's not right."[33] To The Hollywood Reporter, he said, "Look, there's a lot of reasons why I hate myself — being Jewish isn't one of them."[34]
In 2014, Noam Chomsky said that Zionists divided critics of Israeli policy into two groups: anti-Semitic non-Jews and neurotic self-hating Jews, stating:
Actually, the locus classicus, the best formulation of this, was by an ambassador to the United Nations, Abba Eban, Israel's ambassador to the United Nations.... He advised the American Jewish community that they had two tasks to perform. One task was to show that criticism of the policy, what he called anti-Zionism—that means actually criticisms of the policy of the state of Israel—were anti-Semitism. That's the first task. Second task, if the criticism was made by Jews, their task was to show that it's neurotic self-hatred, needs psychiatric treatment. Then he gave two examples of the latter category. One was I. F. Stone. The other was me. So, we have to be treated for our psychiatric disorders, and non-Jews have to be condemned for anti-Semitism, if they're critical of the state of Israel. That's understandable why Israeli propaganda would take this position. I don’t particularly blame Abba Eban for doing what ambassadors are sometimes supposed to do. But we ought to understand that there is no sensible charge. No sensible charge. There's nothing to respond to. It's not a form of anti-Semitism. It's simply criticism of the criminal actions of a state, period.[35]Comment
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Originally posted by BrilloPad View PostFrom Korbyn?"You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JRComment
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Originally posted by Eirikur View PostLabour has become a national socialist party with McDonnell and CorbynComment
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Originally posted by Eirikur View PostLabour has become a national socialist party with McDonnell and Corbyn"You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JRComment
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Originally posted by SueEllen View PostHave a look at what that means in English not the translation from your mother tongue (or the many other languages you speak).Comment
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Originally posted by Eirikur View PostThe strange thing is that the majority Jews living in the UK vote Labour for some unclear reasonComment
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