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Originally posted by Pip in a Poke View Post
Fewer
2. 'Less' is also grammatically correct.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fewer_vs._less
According to prescriptive grammar, "fewer" should be used (instead of "less") with nouns for countable objects and concepts (discretely quantifiable nouns or count nouns). According to this rule, "less" should be used only with a grammatically singular noun (including mass nouns). However, descriptive grammarians (who describe language as actually used) point out that this rule does not correctly describe the most common usage of today or the past and in fact arose as an incorrect generalization of a personal preference expressed by a grammarian in 1770.Historical usage[edit]
Less has always been used in English with counting nouns. Indeed, the application of the distinction between less and fewer as a rule is a phenomenon originating in the 18th century. On this, Merriam–Webster's Dictionary of English Usage notes:[1]
As far as we have been able to discover, the received rule originated in 1770 as a comment on 'less': This Word is most commonly used in speaking of a Number; where I should think Fewer would do better. "No Fewer than a Hundred" appears to me, not only more elegant than "No less than a Hundred," but more strictly proper. (Baker 1770). Baker's remarks about 'fewer' express clearly and modestly – 'I should think,' 'appears to me' – his own taste and preference....Notice how Baker's preference has been generalized and elevated to an absolute status and his notice of contrary usage has been omitted."
The oldest use that the Oxford English Dictionary gives for less with a count noun is a quotation from 888 by Alfred the Great.
Swa mid læs worda swa mid ma, swæðer we hit yereccan mayon.
With less words or with more, whether we may prove it.
This is in fact an Old English partitive construction using the "quasi-substantive" adverb læs and the genitive worda ("less of words"). When the genitive plural ceased to exist, less of words became less words, and this construction has been used since then until the present.Comment
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Originally posted by northernladyuk View Post1.'Less' is not a misspelling of 'fewer'. You mean, I think, that it is a grammatical error.
2. 'Less' is also grammatically correct.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fewer_vs._less
You didn't even read what you quoted.
Refugees is a countable noun therefore fewer is correct here.Comment
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Originally posted by Pip in a Poke View PostNo it's not. It's incorrect.
You didn't even read what you quoted.
Refugees is a countable noun therefore fewer is correct here.Comment
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Originally posted by northernladyuk View PostOh dear. I posted why prescriptive grammar claims that 'less' is incorrect, and why prescriptive grammar is demonstrably flawed, reflecting neither current nor historical usage.
His heart is in the right place - shame we can't say the same about his brain...Comment
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