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    Quote Originally Posted by MrMarkyMark View Post
    Must work though, I earn a very good living at being rubbish, if that is actually the case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by northernladuk View Post
    No disrespect to the OP but there is nothing worse than non PM's falling in to a PM position and thinking they can do it.
    Except PC falling into a non-PC position and thinking he can do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by northernladuk View Post
    No disrespect to the OP but there is nothing worse than non PM's falling in to a PM position and thinking they can do it.
    I'll take it further and suggest that I can think of nothing worse than the OP being my Project Manager.


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    Quote Originally Posted by northernladuk View Post
    No disrespect to the OP but there is nothing worse than non PM's falling in to a PM position and thinking they can do it.
    I never said I thought I could do it I didn't realise I was going to be the PM when hired!

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    I'll take it further and suggest that I can think of nothing worse than the OP being my Project Manager.

    That's because you're a narrowly-focused coder with a very limited imagination.
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    Quote Originally Posted by d000hg View Post
    I never said I thought I could do it I didn't realise I was going to be the PM when hired!

    That's because you're a narrowly-focused coder with a very limited imagination.
    Not really, its because I find you a bit of a stuck up, prissy and fairly boring twunt actually

    I have managed teams of up to 8 developers / testers before, on a few occasions.

    My way of keeping in touch with the tech would be set the developers up with the concept / solution / POC or whatever and let them do the gutsy, repetitive button pushing part of it.
    I would never take a role that didn't involve such activities as it would mean I would lose my SME status.

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    I never said I thought I could do it
    Looks like they have chosen completely the wrong person, then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrMarkyMark View Post
    Not really, its because I find you a bit of a stuck up, prissy and fairly boring twunt actually
    If you cannot think of anything worse than having "a bit of a stuck up, prissy and fairly boring twunt" as PM I'll stand my my claim you have a very weak imagination, thanks for helping me out
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    Quote Originally Posted by d000hg View Post
    If you cannot think of anything worse than having "a bit of a stuck up, prissy and fairly boring twunt" as PM I'll stand my my claim you have a very weak imagination, thanks for helping me out

    Just stating what I have observed, nothing more nothing less, no "imagination" weak or otherwise required .

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    Quote Originally Posted by d000hg View Post
    If you cannot think of anything worse than having "a bit of a stuck up, prissy and fairly boring twunt" as PM I'll stand my my claim you have a very weak imagination, thanks for helping me out
    He just wants to see you sat in a corner, dribbling. He's a strange one, nqat, but at least he's got clear targets.
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    Well I'm equally glad I don't have people like you as developers weighing down my team, so consider the compliment returned.

    It's not an unpleasant role, just unfamiliar not to have a tangible product "I made this". When I did it before to a lesser degree with the same client, I was lead dev/architect/technical PM so if people were not performing (or I didn't tell them what to do properly) I had the last resort to jump in and get my hands dirty but it was a very small team. Probably that is my preferred position - doing some coding, designing larger parts of the system and delegating implementation to a few people while still being in touch with the "bare metal". But then I'm someone who actually enjoys coding... I'm one of the nerds who'd rather be locked away in a basement
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    Quote Originally Posted by d000hg View Post
    Well I'm equally glad I don't have people like you as developers weighing down my team, so consider the compliment returned.

    It's not an unpleasant role, just unfamiliar not to have a tangible product "I made this". When I did it before to a lesser degree with the same client, I was lead dev/architect/technical PM so if people were not performing (or I didn't tell them what to do properly) I had the last resort to jump in and get my hands dirty but it was a very small team. Probably that is my preferred position - doing some coding, designing larger parts of the system and delegating implementation to a few people while still being in touch with the "bare metal". But then I'm someone who actually enjoys coding... I'm one of the nerds who'd rather be locked away in a basement
    When you say, "I made this", what do you normally make?
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